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Old 23 June 2015, 05:56 PM
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Today's footage of the chaos in Calais with people trying to break into moving trucks makes you wonder where the local Gendarmerie were considering we allegedly give the Frenchies a nice financial contribution to deal with this...
Old 23 June 2015, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Today's footage of the chaos in Calais with people trying to break into moving trucks makes you wonder where the local Gendarmerie were considering we allegedly give the Frenchies a nice financial contribution to deal with this...
My thoughts exactly... anyone would think the French wanted rid of these people

It's becoming beyond a joke in all seriousness.

P.S. Common ground at last eh?
Old 23 June 2015, 05:58 PM
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Not afaik, we don't, although they have asked and we should do more.

Quite why the French don't round them up and deport them, since they are illegals, is beyond me. The Flics are pretty good at looking the other way if it suits them...out of sight, etc.
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The French don't want these asylum seekers,they want to come to England for the benefits....
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
The French don't want these asylum seekers,they want to come to England for the benefits....
And the people you voted for are happy to give them to them. EU, human rights etc etc

How bad does it have to get before you actually change your vote?
Old 23 June 2015, 06:12 PM
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This is getting very serious...I was there a few weeks back and the place is literally invaded, I mean it was bad last year, but its ten times worse now.

At 8:00am they were hundreds upon hundreds all camped out on the car park at Leader Price (hypermarket located just outside of Coquelles...near the tunnel), scary stuff when driving a car with UK plates - hence me not stopping to take a picture - the car could get mobbed!

Thing is, unlike other parts of Europe, this lot ALL want to go to the UK.

IMO its time the army were drafted in, if not just to stop them getting on vehicles.
Old 23 June 2015, 06:16 PM
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Anyone know if the other ferry ports are as badly affected? I'm guessing way down in Brittany probably not, but what about Dunkirk?

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Old 23 June 2015, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
And the people you voted for are happy to give them to them. EU, human rights etc etc

How bad does it have to get before you actually change your vote?
You need to have a word with Cherie Blair and her husband with regards to the Human Rights act
Old 23 June 2015, 06:25 PM
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I usually use Dunkirk, and there have been times when the place was snided out with them, more recently not seen many at all, but not been by there for a few months, seems to me like they are less tolerant of them around Dunkirk, which may be due to the fact that most head to Calias.
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Some of the freight is now being sent to Dunkirk,but obviously it's costing more in time and money.just a few days ago a truck was ambushed in Spain by immigrants.threatened the driver to keep quiet or would stab him.Once they had climbed in the trailer the driver turned around and headed back to where he just picked up his load(bread) it's now costing companies thousands of pounds in lost produce.Getting beyond normal now,most don't want go Calais and if ask to go from another port crossing it's usually a no but of loss of money and extra time it takes to deliver the freight.
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Ferried booked Newhaven Dieppe this weekend , thank goodness don't need dover
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Originally Posted by ALi-B

IMO its time the army were drafted in
Yup, some good live target practice.
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We should make the EU enforce the laws....round them up and deport them.

Back where they started from.

And the sooner we get on top of this business of benefits for all, the better!
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Today's footage of the chaos in Calais with people trying to break into moving trucks makes you wonder where the local Gendarmerie were considering we allegedly give the Frenchies a nice financial contribution to deal with this...
Like the Aussies pay the boat captains not to drop refugees off near the North Coast of Australia. They even get Papua New Guinea to build camps to house them.

And guess what?

The numbers trying to get in are nearly ZERO!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33179049

And they withdraw the rights to citizenship if they go and fight for ISIS etc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33234825

Why can't we adopt the ideas set up by our colonial territories?
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We have France for that
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0P31YV20150623



Kick em out the EU !


....or maybe we should share them all out
Old 24 June 2015, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
We should make the EU enforce the laws....round them up and deport them.

Back where they started from.
Worryingly, I agree. Why are they seemingly doing very little about it? It's not like the issue of illegal migrants in and around Calais (etc) is a new one.

Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Like the Aussies pay the boat captains not to drop refugees off near the North Coast of Australia. They even get Papua New Guinea to build camps to house them.

And guess what?

The numbers trying to get in are nearly ZERO!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33179049
I can't help but feel that 'nearly zero' is a statistical fudge. There are clearly still vast numbers trying to get to Australia but the government policy of paying off smugglers means they don't get close.
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easy solution, all trucks got into the ferry, vacume sucks out all the air from the truck park on the journey across. soon stop em doing it
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This is the bit I don't understand.
France is blaming us for not doing enough on French soil to discourage these migrants. They are illegal immigrants in France.
Why aren't the French authorities doing more to stop the migrants entering France in the first place?
Is it as simple as that or have I really missed something?
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Im doing the Dover Calais route in a few weeks, cant say im looking forward to driving back through that lot with the family in my car.
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It makes you wonder how they all get to Calais in the first place, I mean France is over 1000 miles long and if they are all coming from the Med coast then how are they getting to Calais.

France has 3000 illegals all in the same place and still can't deal with them. Watching the news last night the French police were taking them off the trucks and just letting them go so they could then find another truck. It is crazy.
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
This is the bit I don't understand.
France is blaming us for not doing enough on French soil to discourage these migrants. They are illegal immigrants in France.
Why aren't the French authorities doing more to stop the migrants entering France in the first place?
Is it as simple as that or have I really missed something?
First off, if the French turn a blind eye, more leave their soil and get into the UK.

Second, France gives them nothing...no money, no homes, no medical care, nothing. So why do they care? 99.99% of France has zero contact with them, only the area round Calais.
Are the French who live there fed up? You bet!! But does Paris care? Nope.
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Originally Posted by theboy
Im doing the Dover Calais route in a few weeks, cant say im looking forward to driving back through that lot with the family in my car.
I've been twice this year. Unless the ferries or the tunnel are stopped, it's fine until you get close to the port, where there are usually CRS. They won't try and get into the car with you and the car will be searched (boot etc) at the port.

I HAVE been in an attempted stop when towing a box trailer though. Just kept going and even veered towards them a bit...those guys can jump when they have to!
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One of my Brother's is as liberal as they come, but he was in Calais the other day and even he said that he would worry if some of these people got over here. The casual way some of them used violence and intimidation against male and female truck drivers was rather disturbing he said.
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Slightly more complicated than that

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/news-and-vie...in-calais.html
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Worryingly, I agree. Why are they seemingly doing very little about it? It's not like the issue of illegal migrants in and around Calais (etc) is a new one.



I can't help but feel that 'nearly zero' is a statistical fudge. There are clearly still vast numbers trying to get to Australia but the government policy of paying off smugglers means they don't get close.
There are camps for those that "make it" to Aus, notably Christmas Island which is now full and Manus island which is a real murky place. Google it
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Just two random links off Google

Manus
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/1/2...tralian_asylum

Christmas
http://www.theguardian.com/australia...harm-incidents


As for the French it's never their fault always someone else to blame, probably cheesed off as it was the 200 year anniversary of Waterloo recently
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Originally Posted by dpb
Slightly more complicated than that

http://www.unhcr.org.uk/news-and-vie...in-calais.html
None of that changes the fact that the only reason you would logically expect an immigrant refugee of any kind to turn up in Calais is because they've just disembarked from a boat there on which they'd stowed away to escape whatever or wherever it is they're fleeing from.
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What happened to claiming asylum at the first European country they landed at ?,looks like that's gone out of the window ........


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