silver-sub

Just having a little dispute with a friend, I said its the cyclists fault, he says the cars at fault for rear ending the lorry

bustaMOVEs

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Cars fault unfortunately in the eyes of the law, you must leave enough room to emergency brake

andy97

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Car at fault for not allowing enough space for them to take the necessary action in braking for an unseen incident. Think of it this way, if a hole appeared in front of the truck, and the same scenario played out, car driver will still be at fault. Also like driving around a blind bend too fast and hitting a cyclist. Driver would be at fault for not taking enough precautions for unseen hazards

Miniman

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You are meant to ensure that you have enough space to perform an emergency brake. It's irrelevant why the lorry had to brake.

I suppose the cause (not fault) of the lorry braking is the cyclist. However who's fault is it a rear ender happened - the car driver.

silver-sub

All right okay I suppose your right, the cause was the cyclist, the fault was the cars

ALi-B

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Car should easily out-brake a 10ton truck. Car driver was just not paying enough attention and not leaving enough space to brake. FFS the truck was doing 15mph, so really there is no excuse for not being able to stop in time at that kind of speed!!

Cyclist was a **** - made an error, tried to make good, truck driver stopped as a precaution which is exactly the right thing to do (people who panic can do random and stupid things)

One thing I learnt on the roads is you should never try and guess or assume what other road users are going to do, as they will often have a differing mindset and reaction to your own. Times I've got into difficulties have almost always been due to the other road user doing something different to what I expected.

alcazar

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Car's fault, but who the HELL expects the truck to stop dead half way off the roundabout? The car driver wouldn't have seen the cyclist.

Still his fault though, but if it were me I'd have been pretty annoyed at the daft cyclist.

Devildog

As above.

What the **** was the cyclist thinking?

Dandering out in front of a decent size truck on a roundabout is a sure way to get flattened.

Car driver has nothing to get annoyed about other than his/her own lack of attention and probably impatience. Truck was clearly indicating for its exit as well.

andy97

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whilst driving you should expect the unexpected. Only person annoyed should be driver of car due to his/her inattention

Tidgy

As above, cause cyclist, fault driver for being too close.

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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^^ This

f1_fan

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Whatever I am surprised there isn't a video somewhere from the cyclist ranting and raving about how bad the truck's driving was!

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

Neither, the root cause is possibly the lorry driver.

The lorry either didn't indicate around the round about, or indicated off too early, making the cyclist assume the lorry would take the earlier exit than he actually did, and the cyclist ends up pulling out at the wrong moment.

Midlife......

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I use that roundabout every day ................... typical hopeless car drivers. Lane discipline is pants generally with cars wandering all over the roundabout.

Why people think its a good idea to use the left lane on the entrance to turn right beggars belief.

Shaun

Devildog

If you watch it right through, you'll see the truck driver both indicated left and did so at an appropriate point.

fat-thomas

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cyclists fault for wearing lycra

Miniman

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Not sure you can conclude he did it at the right point myself. As the lorry comes into the picture the lamp comes on indicating left. If he put it on at that instance, then it was done correctly. If it was done earlier (and the first second in shot was merely the off phase of the indicator), then he indicated too early. I don't think there is enough footage to confirm either way.

dpb

Missadaventure , car was too close , inevitably his own problem.

Cyclist presumably thought she may make it across his bows , but saw sense

dpb

Hmmm I'm not the only one whose witnessed this , presumably they think its ok if they dive round fast enough holding their hand up as some sort of recompense

Turbohot

The cyclist was a half head dithery dumb, but it will be the car's fault for driving too close imo.

dpb

Its actually quite tempting / difficult to judge when setting off , especially if you're cleated in

bioforger

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Ah look a VW driver not taking due care and attention... standard.

DYK

Driver of the lorry indicated left at the right time,had already passed the last exit off the roundabout before the road he was exiting watch as he comes round into view of the camera and will see when he indicates left.Anyhow it's the cars fault,doesn't matter what pulled out infront of that lorry.cyclist was a bit of a **** but this is all part of driving.If you not looking beyond your bonnet or not leaving enough distance from the vehicle infront,and something happens one or two vehicles ahead of yourself and they brake to avoid the hazard,and you end up the **** of the vehicle infront of you,then you only have yourself to blame.

ALi-B

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Oh the irony...Pay attention: Its a Passat!

bioforger

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oh **** yea

JonMc

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Proper overweight MAMIL - I reckon the sight of the cyclist alone would make the truck driver vomit and want to stop to get his window down

dpb

I reckon he balked at the possible damage she could have done

wrx300scooby

Dumb cyclist, non attentive car driver, considerate truck driver.

stevebt

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Totally the cars fault, you can't blame the cyclist as she ( judging by panic) was on the roundabout before the lorry and they were going that slow there is no reason a car should hit the lorry unless they weren't paying attention which obviously they weren't

scoobiepaul

^ This