Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

My Astra has TWO broken rear springs!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10 September 2014, 11:42 AM
  #1  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default My Astra has TWO broken rear springs!!! Final update.

Thanks to potholes.

I've reported one of the roads near us so many times, yet there are still hundreds of potholes about 4-6" deep and at least 2 feet across.

Today the car went in for MoT and a weird feeling to the rear...and BOTH rear springs are broken...£90 kerching!

I've put in a claim against the council, let's see what they do.

Last edited by alcazar; 04 March 2015 at 01:11 PM.
Old 10 September 2014, 12:00 PM
  #2  
*matthewturb2000*
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
*matthewturb2000*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: cambridge
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

whats the chances of both breaking lol 90 isnt too bad though
Old 10 September 2014, 12:11 PM
  #3  
dpb
Scooby Regular
 
dpb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: riding the crest of a wave ...
Posts: 46,493
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Smile

Ha, could be worse.
Girlfriend sent me this link yesterday


http://www.newsdzezimbabwe.co.uk/201...-mess.html?m=1


( We will be there February, and just trying to source suitable vehicle!)

Last edited by dpb; 10 September 2014 at 12:14 PM.
Old 10 September 2014, 05:31 PM
  #4  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

When I went to pay the garage man told me that he had been misquoted for the springs which should have been £21 dearer. ("Oh, sorry, I didn't hear you say it was an SRi.....")

He made the factors sell him the springs at their original price.
Pretty good I thought.
Old 10 September 2014, 06:56 PM
  #5  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I had both springs broken on the front, and one rear at the same time. (vectra)

Thought it drove a bit funny.
Old 10 September 2014, 09:52 PM
  #6  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Aye, the back of this felt unstable, but it HAS got "Fullrun" tyres on the back, which whine like there's a bearing gone...or two.
Old 10 September 2014, 10:19 PM
  #7  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by alcazar
Aye, the back of this felt unstable, but it HAS got "Fullrun" tyres on the back, which whine like there's a bearing gone...or two.

Does the astra have those banana shaped upper control arms? The bushes in mine had gone which created a scalloping effect on the rear tyres. Which sounds just like wheel bearings gone.

Trending Topics

Old 11 September 2014, 10:05 AM
  #8  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

I dunno, I'll look.

But it had FOUR of these balsted things on, I swapped the fronts as the noise kept making me think the gearbox was suspect again. The gearbox guy had a good look, drove it and said it's tyres. We put it on a ramp and you could FEEL the scalloping.

It's better without them, it's now on Firestones, but the rears weren't hardly worn, so I stuck with them. They will be gone this winter, but being on 225/40 x 18's, there's not much out there under £90, and most are over £100......with Michelins etc being around £150 each!!!

I HAD thought of getting a set over in France, but Osborne has set the £ back against the € AGAIN...I think the man does it on purpose, and how the € is holding as high as it is is beyond me....and most Europeans.

Last edited by alcazar; 11 September 2014 at 10:06 AM.
Old 11 September 2014, 01:41 PM
  #9  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

Broken springs; nothing new in this day and age - blame all the salt they chuck on our roads, meaning the spring cups in which teh springs sit in are caked in a load of salty grit which is then kept damp by our lovely damp climate. Along with the poorer quality metal, the potholes just finish them off.

Astras are usually beam axles on the rear, so no adjustment of camber (just setback is affected if the bushing wear), unless its bent - takes some effort to bend that, unless you are related to Bo Duke.

The tyre noise is probably from saw-toothing in teh inner tread blocks; have a feel along teh inner circumference. For every two to three tread blocks you'll find one block more worn than the others. Thats what makes teh noise, its terrible on some cars. Usually down to the tyre construction. For example the Bridgestone RE050s on our our Altea did it, but the replacments since - Good Years F1s and Michelins Primacys haven't done it. My Golf has never done it and it has the same rear suspension setup - but then its only ever worn Michelin Pilot sports (ignoring a brief period where they were fitted with some god-awful Pirelli Rossos).

Last edited by ALi-B; 11 September 2014 at 01:47 PM.
Old 11 September 2014, 04:49 PM
  #10  
gazzawrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (11)
 
gazzawrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: everywhere
Posts: 2,059
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Rear broken springs on any vauxhalls is a common issue, i fail loads of astras, vectras and zafiras due to this.
Old 11 September 2014, 06:02 PM
  #11  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Yep, the tyres have worn in castellations on the inner faces.

Vauxhalls suffer from this? Is it worth contacting them?
Old 11 September 2014, 06:04 PM
  #12  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It'll be the upper arm, if it has one.

Jack the rear up and wobble the wheel from top to bottom.
Old 11 September 2014, 08:41 PM
  #13  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

What made the fronts wear in exactly the same way, then?
Old 11 September 2014, 08:52 PM
  #14  
cookstar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
cookstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Stroke it baby!
Posts: 33,828
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by alcazar
What made the fronts wear in exactly the same way, then?
How long have you had the car? Maybe the previous owner had rotated the tyres. Other than that, dunno.,
Old 11 September 2014, 10:39 PM
  #15  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by alcazar
Yep, the tyres have worn in castellations on the inner faces.

Vauxhalls suffer from this? Is it worth contacting them?
They'd probably fob you off and blame the tyre manufacturer, and the tyre manufacturer will blame the car manufacturer etc.

I can't say I've seen it personally on anything made by GM, but I am not suprised either. I've seen plenty on Volvos, Mondeos, Mercs, and anything VAG. Usually budget tyres, but I have seen the odd branded one too (i.e Bridgestone RE050). Mostly rears (as a pair), but I have seen the odd front do it too (as a single tyre) - the latter of which I have put down to physical damage (be it pothole or under-inflation/puncture ) or suspension wear. The rear tyre wear IMO has to be the tyre being subject to a force it doesn't like, otherwise they wouldn't wear as a equal pair in such a identical fashion (which is what I see them do).

I'm wondering if having asymmetric, directional or omnidirectional tyres makes a difference in this aspect. The RE050s I endured were directional, but I haven't paid too much attention to other tyres I've seen with this problem. I rotated the RE050's (both front to rear and reversed the tyre them on the rim) in hope it would even them out, it just made them worse.

My current thinking is maybe asymmetrics have a differing structure on the inner tread to the outer, so in theory they can cope with the forces that camber and toe-in create on the inner part of the tyre....that's just a guess though, I'm yet to observe it in practice.
Old 12 September 2014, 04:54 PM
  #16  
wayne9t9
Scooby Regular
 
wayne9t9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Not the Wild West
Posts: 1,567
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I bought an 07 Astra SRI a month ago, the seller put a new mot on for me. Guess what it needed done. Yup, rear coil spring. The bloke that repaired it blamed all the speed bumps.
Old 03 February 2015, 01:09 PM
  #17  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Just to update:

Today, nearly FIVE MONTHS after submitting a claim, I get a letter asking for a copy of my repair invoice, ....."without which we cannot proceed".

I bet they will be surprised when they receive it by return, plus a letter detailing the claim and stating that I ALSO still have the broken springs, should they wish to examine them.

LOL.

I await their response.
Old 04 March 2015, 01:03 PM
  #18  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Update:

They've offered £50 against a claim for over £90.

I've rung and told them to get closer to £75 and I'll take it.

They are talking about wear and tear on the old springs, but FAILING to take into account that I had to pay to have them fitted, and that there was VAT on top of everything.

We'll see.
Old 04 March 2015, 01:12 PM
  #19  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

And less than ten minutes later, they agree, a cheque for £75 in the post.

Success.
Old 04 March 2015, 03:08 PM
  #20  
wrx300scooby
Scooby Regular
 
wrx300scooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Prostate cancer got me, please get checked guys
Posts: 2,333
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default


Result!!!!
Old 04 March 2015, 06:37 PM
  #21  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

Not bad...for something that's commonplace on 5yr+ old Astras.

You do realise that you've set a presidence that every person with an old Astra and broken springs can now make a claim....up goes the council tax...doh!
Old 04 March 2015, 07:33 PM
  #22  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Do I look like I care?

The £75 will go towards paying for the heater fan repair...same car......
Old 04 March 2015, 09:54 PM
  #23  
legb4rsk
Scooby Regular
 
legb4rsk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: If you're not braking or accelerating you're wasting time.
Posts: 2,684
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ALi-B
Not bad...for something that's commonplace on 5yr+ old Astras.

You do realise that you've set a presidence that every person with an old Astra and broken springs can now make a claim....up goes the council tax...doh!
Plus he will be making fortune selling photocopies of his invoice.
Old 05 March 2015, 12:09 PM
  #24  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

A fortune? they are only £1 each.......
Old 05 March 2015, 01:28 PM
  #25  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

....per spring...+VAT, Postage and packing
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
shorty87
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
19
22 December 2015 11:59 AM
B0DSKI
Non Car Related Items For sale
2
27 September 2015 06:58 PM
sivo
ScoobyNet General
12
26 September 2015 12:34 PM
shorty87
Other Marques
0
25 September 2015 08:52 PM
shorty87
Wheels And Tyres For Sale
0
25 September 2015 08:36 PM



Quick Reply: My Astra has TWO broken rear springs!!!



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:55 AM.