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Old 09 May 2014, 09:13 PM
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Since our little one was born we've been dropping money into my Wife's own savings account. There is currently circa £3k in there.
Due to a death in the family, there is going to be a 4 figure addition to the account and we feel it's a good time to set up an account in the little one's name.
We've had a look around the net but figured real world SN opinion may prove the winner.
We are looking for an account which we can add to every month. Withdrawal ability isn't necessary as it will just be building until she is 18.

Any recommendations?
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Stakeholder pension for £2,880 each year. This is then topped up by the government to £3,600 as a tax-back incentive.

However, if someone was able to put the maximum into the fund, assume an average annual return of 6%. By the time they retire at 70 (which could be ‘early’ by then), they’ll have a pension pot of around £2 million! Having said that, the current stakeholder rules do allow you to have access to the money by the time you’re 55. At that stage, the pot will be smaller, but even if your grandchild decides to take it out at that point, it will still be well over £1 million.
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55 is a little beyond the 18
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Originally Posted by Brun
Since our little one was born we've been dropping money into my Wife's own savings account. There is currently circa £3k in there.
Due to a death in the family, there is going to be a 4 figure addition to the account and we feel it's a good time to set up an account in the little one's name.
We've had a look around the net but figured real world SN opinion may prove the winner.
We are looking for an account which we can add to every month. Withdrawal ability isn't necessary as it will just be building until she is 18.

Any recommendations?



Yes. Get her a btl
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Yes. Get her a btl
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I remember reading a great story (in the financial press) of a women who had dutifully put £xx amount away for 20 odd years in a savings plan ( might have been Scottish widows)


When she redeemed it, it was worth 68k - which was about 2k less than if she had put the cash under her mattress

She had just experienced the concept of Fiscal drag
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Does your 2 year old need you to save for him/her?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Does your 2 year old need you to save for him/her?
She hasn't got the concept of online banking and saving in general so yes would be the answer!
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It would very much depend on your attitude to risk

If you are risk adverse, you would be looking at cash deposit, however the 'risk' is erosion by inflation.
Premium Bonds could be an option.
If you are prepared to take some risk then equities would be the way forward
Junior ISA perhaps
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Originally Posted by Brun
She hasn't got the concept of online banking and saving in general so yes would be the answer!
You're going to teach her to save before she can speak? Using your money?
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Avoid the Co op
Old 10 May 2014, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
You're going to teach her to save before she can speak? Using your money?
Speaking is coming on nicely thank you! I hadn't realised I had said I was teaching her to save so maybe reading between the line requires some work on your part

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Have you looked here: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sav...vings-tax-free
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We did have a look on MSE which implies that 3% is about the best we're going to get for the amount of cash we are going to deposit.
Anyways, as me and the Wife has ISA's with the Leeds Building Society we asked in there. We have opened a trust account @ 3.04% which we have to deposit a max of £250 a month into so it's going to take 12 months to empty the Wife's account
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Buy an old Ford Escort RS turbo & garage it till she is 18, Should be worth a few £££ by then
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Only me would benefit from that
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Originally Posted by Brun
Only me would benefit from that
Still a cracking idea though to put to the missus.

My Girlfriend was watching a car program with a MK2 Escort in it, Paid some thing like 4k & spent the same again restoring it, Sold it for 25k. She turned to me & asked if she paid would I do that
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Originally Posted by Brun
55 is a little beyond the 18
She can take over at 18 and start paying in to it herself.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Does your 2 year old need you to save for him/her?
Indeed, I mean how stupid can you be? Putting some money aside for your daughter, to give her a good start in life.

Both of mine will be given one of my flats when they reach 21.
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Indeed, I mean how stupid can you be? Putting some money aside for your daughter, to give her a good start in life.

Both of mine will be given one of my flats when they reach 21.


How dare you work hard to earn money, pay tax on it, invest it, pay tax on that again and then have the audacity to give it to your own flesh and blood??

Capitalist pigs like you make me sick
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I do feel ashamed.


I'm sure I'll get over it though.
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
How dare you work hard to earn money, pay tax on it, invest it, pay tax on that again and then have the audacity to give it to your own flesh and blood??

Capitalist pigs like you make me sick
But it isn't your beloved Capitalist meritocracy but a form of ascription; people having privileges and wealth based on nothing but blood.

You bang on about earning your success but for your kids you seek entitlement.

What sort of lesson in life is that?

Inheritance is a mechanism which concentrates power and wealth according to accident of birth. You side with this but out of the other side of your mouth speak of the justice of achievement based on merit.

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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
But it isn't your beloved Capitalist meritocracy but a form of ascription; people having privileges and wealth based on nothing but blood.

You bang on about earning your success but for your kids you seek entitlement.

What sort of lesson in life is that?

Inheritance is a mechanism which concentrates power and wealth according to accident of birth. You side with this but out of the other side of your mouth speak of the justice of achievement based on merit.


Yes because in the real world (ie outside of an A level sociology discussion group) you can have both, both can coexist at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive in a mature first world country.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said in many developing countries but even some of them are improving.

So I can confidently confirm my stance on the matter is consistent, coherent and correct
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
How dare you work hard to earn money, pay tax on it, invest it, pay tax on that again and then have the audacity to give it to your own flesh and blood??

Capitalist pigs like you make me sick


I know, we should all be living in mudhuts, eating gruel and letting the land/wealth be "free".

******* crackpot that bloke

Tell he's not a parent, well except to a budgie maybe.
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
Yes because in the real world (ie outside of an A level sociology discussion group) you can have both, both can coexist at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive in a mature first world country.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said in many developing countries but even some of them are improving.

So I can confidently confirm my stance on the matter is consistent, coherent and correct
I said they were contradictory not mutually exclusive.

It requires a cognitive dissonance to accommodate.
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The are some good rates on regular saver type accounts for children, and you have control of the money as it's in their name but you are the trustee.

I don't think I'd bother with a pension, I know it's a very pessimistic standpoint but what if your kid doesn't reach the age when they can draw down on a pension, lot of money lost.

Also be careful with junior ISAs etc. Unless you are maxing out your own ISA allowance year on year, and remember things are changing later this year and you'll be able to invest much more as cash if you want to, then I'd put the money into ISAs in your or your wifes name with a view to it being a bit of cash for the kids when they're older.

Problem with junior ISAs etc. is that once it's in there the cash is belongs to your kids, not you, there is no access to it until they're 18 and then it's theirs to do whatever they want with. Now in an ideal world they'll be sensible with that money and put it towards their Uni fees, first house etc. but there's nothing to stop them blowing the lot on whatever take their fancy. Not all 18 year olds are sensible with money.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I said they were contradictory not mutually exclusive.

It requires a cognitive dissonance to accommodate.

Life is full of contradictions and grey areas.

It just requires an iota of common sense to accommodate that.
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We have a Halifax Child ISA for our 3yo that pays 6% as long as we also have an adult ISA (that only needs to have a balance of 1 pound or more). DD adds a few quid every month. Hoping that we can convert the other lads CTF to one soon too.
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We're just waiting to move some cash about the we're off for the same deal


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