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Old 28 April 2014, 03:58 PM
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Default Teacher stabbed to death

Shocking, I am sure Mr Lewis will be along telling us it a other perk of the job.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27193638
Old 28 April 2014, 04:35 PM
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And there you go.

We have removed every sanction on these kids, and people on here, and in the wider public insist that there is no stress in teaching......how many on here have a job in which they risk assault, be it verbal or physical, every day?

This kid will go to a YOI for a couple of years and be out and free. The poor woman is gone for ever and her family have to live with that.

If it were my mum, or wife, that kid would be dead the day he got out of the YOI.
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This was my old High School, that teacher taught me Religious Education in my final year. I have to say, at the time I was there, a situation like this would never ever come about, I think it shows more about children's "power" in society (They know exactly what they can get away with!) rather than soft touch schools.

What's more upsetting is at 15 years old, this murderer will be treated and trialled as a child or young offender rather than an adult, even though we all really know they brought the knife with the full intention of causing harm to someone, if not a teacher, then another pupil.
Old 28 April 2014, 04:49 PM
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An extension of the "what are you going to do about it?" culture.

Too many Kids nowadays with no respect for anybody, giving it the bigun!
Old 28 April 2014, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
And there you go.

We have removed every sanction on these kids, and people on here, and in the wider public insist that there is no stress in teaching......how many on here have a job in which they risk assault, be it verbal or physical, every day?

This kid will go to a YOI for a couple of years and be out and free. The poor woman is gone for ever and her family have to live with that.

If it were my mum, or wife, that kid would be dead the day he got out of the YOI.
What happen is shocking and I'm very sorry for her family.
Teaching I suspect can be a stressful job.
Not half as stressful as nurses, paramedics (who get less than a teachers salary).
I think most jobs,careers have their daily risks etc,
Builders & construction risk death on sites.
As said before nurses, doctors and paramedics risk daily abuse, physical and mental.
Coastguard search & rescue risk death daily.
Merchant mariners.
Security guards.
Firefighters.
Taxi drivers risk daily abuse.
Fishermen.
All the above on much less pay than a teacher.
What happened to that poor woman is inexcusable though!
Old 28 April 2014, 05:43 PM
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hang the little c@@t
Old 28 April 2014, 06:50 PM
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Was that school at Halton moor /cross green area?
Old 28 April 2014, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Was that school at Halton moor /cross green area?
Yep. The area has a bad rep but stuff like this never happens up there. The strong Catholic community surrounding the school will be just as upset about what's happened. If huge lad is local to the school I can't see him or his family being very welcome around there
Old 28 April 2014, 08:12 PM
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This lady was 61, a pensioner that makes it even worse.
This is sickening, I only hope this was not done in front of the rest of the class, if it was there's going to be some traumatized young adults.
This is a important time for 15 year old's, this could set them back on so many levels.
Old 28 April 2014, 08:32 PM
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Don't forget he was probably "misunderstood" . Dear God, please let him get what he deserves in heaven.
Old 28 April 2014, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by daviee
This lady was 61, a pensioner that makes it even worse.
This is sickening, I only hope this was not done in front of the rest of the class, if it was there's going to be some traumatized young adults.
This is a important time for 15 year old's, this could set them back on so many levels.
She had 40 years service at Corpus Christi school too. She had retired and gone back on reduced days to carry on teaching as it what was she loved to do.

She was a great teacher, had quite a modern attitude to teaching, especially in a Catholic school, she was firm but fair and treated her students with respect, only asking to be treated the same. I know about 20 people from various years who were taught by her as well as myself and everyone has the same fondly remembered opinion of her.

According to reports, the attack did actually happen in front of a class full of pupils. One of the rumours going round at the minute is that the attacker was heard saying "I don't want to hurt you, I want to kill you!" Which if true is just horrifying. There's a name being banded round twitter of who the lad is apparently but I'm not on there so I can't see it.

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Old 28 April 2014, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
And there you go.

We have removed every sanction on these kids, and people on here, and in the wider public insist that there is no stress in teaching......how many on here have a job in which they risk assault, be it verbal or physical, every day?

This kid will go to a YOI for a couple of years and be out and free. The poor woman is gone for ever and her family have to live with that.

If it were my mum, or wife, that kid would be dead the day he got out of the YOI.
^ This
Old 28 April 2014, 09:51 PM
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Get ready for the quotes of "he is a good lad" "it was not his fault" etc etc.
Bet he gets 10 years, out in 4 to 5. Probably do his a-levels and degree whilst inside. Come out with a degree and new name.

Total joke this country.
Old 28 April 2014, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by specialx
An extension of the "what are you going to do about it?" culture.

Too many Kids nowadays with no respect for anybody, giving it the bigun!
Bring back the belt, ******* nanny culture is doing no one any favours.
Old 28 April 2014, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigman149
hang the little c@@t
This.
Old 29 April 2014, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Bring back the belt, ******* nanny culture is doing no one any favours.
Think the country has gone to far this way now to turn it back..
Anyhow sad thing to hear.
Old 29 April 2014, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
What happen is shocking and I'm very sorry for her family.
Teaching I suspect can be a stressful job.
Not half as stressful as nurses, paramedics (who get less than a teachers salary).
I think most jobs,careers have their daily risks etc,
Builders & construction risk death on sites.
As said before nurses, doctors and paramedics risk daily abuse, physical and mental.
Coastguard search & rescue risk death daily.
Merchant mariners.
Security guards.
Firefighters.
Taxi drivers risk daily abuse.
Fishermen.
All the above on much less pay than a teacher.
What happened to that poor woman is inexcusable though!
How can a news story about some poor woman who has been stabbed to death in front of her class be used to criticise them as being over paid, seemingly based on the level of stress their job entails? The mind boggles.

Thoughts must be with her family and the children who witnessed the stabbing.

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Old 29 April 2014, 07:47 AM
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This is shocking indeed.
I am not sure if it is the parents' responsibility as well as the child's who committed this. Only they themselves know.
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Sad news
Old 29 April 2014, 12:12 PM
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Might see him at the nbo this year because he will be sent to lightwater valley after hes been to centre parks.
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He will serve 5yrs in a YOI and be out by the time he's 21.
Old 29 April 2014, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LEO-RS
Exactly the opposite, a white hippy kid...

https://www.facebook.com/will.cornick?fref=ts

Article confirming...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...deo-games.html
You can see where the Daily Mail are taking this. Liked violent video games, heavy metal and took drugs.

Of course, that is totally irelevant to the tragic loss of what seemed a great teacher.
Old 29 April 2014, 01:31 PM
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They need to make an example of this kid to stop this happening again in another school. Sad times.
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The drugs may have contributed.
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Well,he not done himself any good now has he.
This obviously goes more deeper than playing video games.I knew a kid at school that was into angry music,slept in the local cemetery a few times,and had a human skull in his bedroom.Was clever,but didn't kill anyone.
Just what's the daily mail doing.
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I would be surprised if he wasn't diagnosed as being insane.
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Originally Posted by specialx
An extension of the "what are you going to do about it?" culture.

Too many Kids nowadays with no respect for anybody, giving it the bigun!
+1

The inevitable 'Mad Max'-esque dystopia is all but upon on us, folks. Give it, say, another 100yrs......


On a lighter note here's that picture of the delightful Sian Welby:



A much needed tonic, I'm sure you'll agree.

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I sincerely hope people that have been looking at/posting on this thread can understand why I have removed some of the comments.

What has happened is absolutely tragic and I don't think it's right for this thread to descend into an argument about something irrelevant.
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I don't,and it was relevant to me,but I understand that it pales,and is insignificant in the face of what happened to the teacher.SJ.
Old 29 April 2014, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
I sincerely hope people that have been looking at/posting on this thread can understand why I have removed some of the comments.

What has happened is absolutely tragic and I don't think it's right for this thread to descend into an argument about something irrelevant.
Ohh ffs it is a crappy car forum in the back reaches of the internet, not the UN security council

Posts should be left as they were, people should be accountable for what they post - smacks of big brother censorship

Pathetic


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