Makes my p!ss boil
28 April 2014, 01:21 PM
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Makes my p!ss boil
So, you owe the tax office a few undred and they come at you with the book and threats and all sorts.
You owe them 1.2bill and o its ok you pay 10mill and that will be the end of it.
FFS and they wonder why people complain about the tax office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27144637
You owe them 1.2bill and o its ok you pay 10mill and that will be the end of it.
FFS and they wonder why people complain about the tax office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27144637
28 April 2014, 01:30 PM
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Tip of the Iceburg: Vodafone have done it to the tune of billions. Starbucks buy their coffee from Switzerland (think about it 
), Sir Philip Green. A quick google reveals a few others have too.
I also hate people who constantly seek to do cash jobs to avoid tax; they are equally as bad IMO. That compounded loss probably amounts to trillions of lost tax revenue. Its as bad as benefit leachers.
), Sir Philip Green. A quick google reveals a few others have too.I also hate people who constantly seek to do cash jobs to avoid tax; they are equally as bad IMO. That compounded loss probably amounts to trillions of lost tax revenue. Its as bad as benefit leachers.
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28 April 2014, 01:30 PM
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Annoyed me a lot. I'm having to pay some tax to HMRC and while I fully admit it is justified they refused to let me pay it off over a few months to ease the impact to my finances.
28 April 2014, 02:04 PM
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Every British citizen who has paid tax since October 2001 is technically an accessory to war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocides.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
28 April 2014, 02:11 PM
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Every British citizen who has paid tax since October 2001 is technically an accessory to war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocides.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
Hm, now the question is how much do i sue you for? Unless you appologise of course
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28 April 2014, 02:31 PM
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So, you owe the tax office a few undred and they come at you with the book and threats and all sorts.
You owe them 1.2bill and o its ok you pay 10mill and that will be the end of it.
FFS and they wonder why people complain about the tax office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27144637
You owe them 1.2bill and o its ok you pay 10mill and that will be the end of it.
FFS and they wonder why people complain about the tax office
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27144637
Did you actually read the article?
It says he "could" have owed them £1.2billion had he got the tax planning wrong.
But he got it right and the agreed liability was £10m.
What's the problem?
Typical BBC sensationalist reporting. Again.
What it should have said is "Smart Mr Ecclestone avoids being screwed over for a massive tax bill by HM Treasury by taking good advice"
That £1.2b tax liability was "never" going to be any more than a potential tax bill on paper.
Bernie and the trust haven't escaped anything.
28 April 2014, 02:52 PM
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thast a bit of a stretch and to accuse people of being war criminals like that is disgracefull and also liabel.
so where's the appology, or do i need to speak to a lawyer?
28 April 2014, 02:59 PM
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Illegal or not, our taxes did help fund the war.
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28 April 2014, 03:02 PM
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Why should i pay for your children? you want em, then make sure you can afford em,,,,, lol
If were going for complete black and white route like that, then by stating that your a terrorist,,,,,,,
things are never that simple are they
28 April 2014, 03:04 PM
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Did you actually read the article?
It says he "could" have owed them £1.2billion had he got the tax planning wrong.
But he got it right and the agreed liability was £10m.
What's the problem?
Typical BBC sensationalist reporting. Again.
What it should have said is "Smart Mr Ecclestone avoids being screwed over for a massive tax bill by HM Treasury by taking good advice"
That £1.2b tax liability was "never" going to be any more than a potential tax bill on paper.
Bernie and the trust haven't escaped anything.
It says he "could" have owed them £1.2billion had he got the tax planning wrong.
But he got it right and the agreed liability was £10m.
What's the problem?
Typical BBC sensationalist reporting. Again.
What it should have said is "Smart Mr Ecclestone avoids being screwed over for a massive tax bill by HM Treasury by taking good advice"
That £1.2b tax liability was "never" going to be any more than a potential tax bill on paper.
Bernie and the trust haven't escaped anything.
that is/was the legal test, believable??
in other news
Bernie's defence against corruption charges in Germany, and why he paid a £20 million bribe to a banker is that he was a victim of blackmail.
it was paid to stop Gerhard Gribkowsky telling HMRC that he had set up an offshore family trust. - so not "technically" a bribe
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28 April 2014, 03:06 PM
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Every British citizen who has paid tax since October 2001 is technically an accessory to war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocides.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
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28 April 2014, 03:06 PM
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the above is correct - but you have to accept that Mr Ecclestone did not set up, or control, the trust.
that is/was the legal test, believable??
in other news
Bernie's defence against corruption charges in Germany, and why he paid a £20 million bribe to a banker is that he was a victim of blackmail.
it was paid to stop Gerhard Gribkowsky telling HMRC that he had set up an offshore family trust.
that is/was the legal test, believable??
in other news
Bernie's defence against corruption charges in Germany, and why he paid a £20 million bribe to a banker is that he was a victim of blackmail.
it was paid to stop Gerhard Gribkowsky telling HMRC that he had set up an offshore family trust.
i did have a chuckle at the judge syaing he didnt know how to tell the truth, or words to that affect lol
28 April 2014, 03:13 PM
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You are right, things are never simple, that's why Ecclestone took complex measures to legally limit his tax liabilites, there is nothing wrong or illegal with doing that. He paid £10m to settle that matter, that's more tax than you'll ever pay in your life time.
28 April 2014, 03:22 PM
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"we" paid our taxes that helped to fund said wars, unknowingly at the time of course.
28 April 2014, 04:58 PM
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so not everyone
28 April 2014, 05:05 PM
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Every British citizen who has paid tax since October 2001 is technically an accessory to war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocides.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
If governments use money raised by taxation to wage illegal wars(think about it)and kill innocent civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
You will be committing multiple criminal offences under international law if you continue to contribute in any way whatsoever to the British Government’s unlawful armed attacks on innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
28 April 2014, 08:30 PM
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Tip of the Iceburg: Vodafone have done it to the tune of billions. Starbucks buy their coffee from Switzerland (think about it ), Sir Philip Green. A quick google reveals a few others have too.
I also hate people who constantly seek to do cash jobs to EVADE tax; they are equally as bad IMO. That compounded loss probably amounts to trillions of lost tax revenue. Its as bad as benefit leachers.
), Sir Philip Green. A quick google reveals a few others have too.I also hate people who constantly seek to do cash jobs to EVADE tax; they are equally as bad IMO. That compounded loss probably amounts to trillions of lost tax revenue. Its as bad as benefit leachers.
Evade tax=illegal
Avoid tax=legal
29 April 2014, 11:23 AM
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Perhaps because the rate of taxation is too high, and we see so many people getting away with paying less % than we do.
Personally I'd support non-payment of tax. The government waste what they get, never have money for things the country NEEDS, but always seem able to find an extra few £m or even £b for stuff they want to support.
Personally I'd support non-payment of tax. The government waste what they get, never have money for things the country NEEDS, but always seem able to find an extra few £m or even £b for stuff they want to support.
29 April 2014, 12:02 PM
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This makes no sense. How can tax payers in 2001 have knowlingly aided and abbetted an illegal war which is beyond their power to invoke or stop? (and lest us forget, all the parties were behind the decision at the time)
29 April 2014, 01:36 PM
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Perhaps because the rate of taxation is too high, and we see so many people getting away with paying less % than we do.
Personally I'd support non-payment of tax. The government waste what they get, never have money for things the country NEEDS, but always seem able to find an extra few £m or even £b for stuff they want to support.
Personally I'd support non-payment of tax. The government waste what they get, never have money for things the country NEEDS, but always seem able to find an extra few £m or even £b for stuff they want to support.
I agree with you. The bad way tax money is spent and managed by the goverment is a major issue.
However if everyone didn't pay tax then we'd fall into a state of anarchy. Whilst I like the idea of ideoligcal anarchism, real life anarchy is more comparable to places like Somalia. No ta, I'd rather everyone pays their tax.
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