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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...or-longer.html

daviee

Noel Edmonds does not even have a TV licence, why should you ? 5.00 mins in beggers belief.

beardo47

I thought you needed one even if you only use catch up?

DYK

They can **** off,very rare I watch BBC ,top gear is about it,i player about 2 times last year.As for radio listen to five live now and again during the week.

hodgy0_2

At present it is only needed for live broadcasts either on TV or computer

So if you have no TV and watch pre-recorded BBC program's you do not require one

But a bit like the old Tax disk, technology is making it a bit of an anathema

CharlySkunkWeed

iTrader: (7)

http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/

richs2891

I know a friend of my parents who genuinely dont have a TV (they got rid of it), but still pay the licence as it was that much hassle and even three visits from the TV licencing team / enforcement team, where not believed so it was simply easier to pay for one !

Richard

RA Dunk

I would class that as some form of harassment if they genuinely don't have a license.

urban

iTrader: (1)

So would I.

richs2891

Problem is they are both old, one is in a wheel chair, I guess they took the view its just easier to pay it. If try and intervene, TV licence people insist on only talking to the person who name they have on record. I have tried !

Richard

RA Dunk

Definately taking the **** then, citizens advice be of any help?

JackClark

Good. People who moan should cancel their Sky/Virgin subscriptions. It's for the best.

dpb

They should have a significantly smaller fee for using iplayer at at source.


No way they'll be able to inforce /collect this

urban

iTrader: (1)

Send them something in writing stating who they should deal with on the matter.
Don't let them pay just for the sake of paying though.

johned

If you can get tv on your mobile phone,tablet etc.you also have to have a tv licence.

richs2891

Will give the letter a go but, they have admitted to having a pc - but with no tv tuner in so I wonder if this is the excuse the licensing is using ?
Richard

dpb

Really? , if you say so

BULLITT

They've always been the same, my dad used to work in TV repairs in the 60s and 70s and he told me about one Fisherman who bought a TV for his boat and requested the retailer remove the receiver from the TV as he just watched videos on it whilst at sea. He got a letter of confirmation from the retailer that his TV had had the receiver removed and was unable to receive any transmissions and yet the TV Licensing still took him to court insisting he had to have a licence.

The judge took one look at the letter from the retailer and threw the case out straight away and berated the TV Licence enforcement for wasting his, the courts and the Fisherman's time. In the end they were forced to pay all of the Fisherman's fees plus cover his loss of earnings for the day in court.

They never learn and will just keep pushing and pushing until they get their own way.

pslewis

I got summoned for no TV Licence back in the day .......

Mouser

Seems strange they are considering these proposals when the Government has lifted the threat of criminal prosecution for licence fee dodgers.

Good point.

johned

I am not being clever i just know from experience.

tony de wonderful

That's what I do. I don't watch live TV anymore so don't have a license.

I get many threatening sounding letters from the TV license people in red ink. I laugh maniacally as I throw them in the bin every week.

paulr

The BBC is one of the best brands in the world. Damage it at your peril.

paulr

And for everyone that moans, now you get the whole online stuff as well, all advert free.

RA Dunk

EFA.

Good riddence to the fecking thing.

robscoobyclay

iTrader: (1)

The only people that have been sent to court for not having a TV licence are people that have admitted to having a TV but not a licence. No TV detection as ever been used in a court of law. I rang TV licence people last week and told them I don't need a licence. I said I have a TV that is used by my kids to watch dad's . They asked my name. My reply was " I'm not abliged to give you my name". They said they will send someone round to confirm I don't need a licence. My reply was " all rights of access to my property have been revoked an if anyone from TV licencing come onto my property they will be fined 5 thousand pounds". I received a letter from them today saying all letter's will be stopped and I will not hear from them for 2 year's. ... saving myself just under 300 quid. Will spend that on the car. Cheers.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I think its only fair people should continue to pay the license fee even if they don't have a tv,. It is true the iplayer service is soo good we should be grateful its there as everyone uses it

tony de wonderful

The rules were changed a while ago - once you needed a licence for owning a TV, now you need to own it and watch live TV, so just having a TV isn't enough.

The TV licence people have no right of entry and they need a search warrant to access your property. Even then IIRC you don't have to let them in because it's a civil matter. They can't just get warrants because they suspect you might be watching TV, they need evidence like a confession or to see the TV through a window.

tony de wonderful

They had TV's when you were young?

robscoobyclay

iTrader: (1)

and to send me to court they need a name which they dont have. and to look through my window they would need to come onto my property, revoking the rights of access also include capita who work with tv licencing.