Kidney Stones - Part Deux
27 March 2014, 09:46 PM
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Kidney Stones - Part Deux
As a few of you lot know my kidney stones have been playing up again and made a bid for freedom. They have managed to get stuck in the tube near to my bladder and have wedged themselves in tight. The previous episode involved morphine and 4 days in hospital.
The pesky blighters have had two sessions of ESWL (keeping it simple) - shockwave treatment, but the buggers will not break up. Now the consultation yesterday with the quack as given me and them a way out.
But if your squeamish look away now.
They will be going in backwards, down the jap and pulling them out. I will get a general anaesthetic but the tube to the jap from the bladder is about 4 mm but the stones are 6.6 and 4.9mm, do the sum's!
Ureterorenoscopy
If a kidney stone is stuck in your ureter (the muscular tube that carries waste products from your kidneys to your bladder), you may need to have ureterorenoscopy. Ureterorenoscopy is also sometimes known as retrograde intrarenal surgery (RIRS).
Ureterorenoscopy involves passing a long, thin telescope, called a ureteroscope, through your urethra (tube that carries urine from the bladder to the outside of the body) and into your bladder. It is then passed up into your ureter to where the stone is stuck.
The surgeon may either try gently to remove the stone using another instrument, or they may use laser energy to break the stone up into small pieces so that it can be passed naturally in your urine.
As with PCNL, ureterorenoscopy is also performed under general anaesthetic, so you should not drive or operate machinery for up to 48 hours after the procedure.
For stones up to 15mm (0.6in), an ureterorenoscopy is effective in 50-80% of cases.
You may need a plastic tube called a stent to be inserted temporarily inside you, to allow the stone fragments to drain into the bladder.
Copious amounts of anti-inflammatory, pain relief and anti-biotics.
You'll know when it happens
.
I will get 24hrs notice and should have them done within 4 weeks.
The pesky blighters have had two sessions of ESWL (keeping it simple) - shockwave treatment, but the buggers will not break up. Now the consultation yesterday with the quack as given me and them a way out.
But if your squeamish look away now.
They will be going in backwards, down the jap and pulling them out. I will get a general anaesthetic but the tube to the jap from the bladder is about 4 mm but the stones are 6.6 and 4.9mm, do the sum's!
Ureterorenoscopy
If a kidney stone is stuck in your ureter (the muscular tube that carries waste products from your kidneys to your bladder), you may need to have ureterorenoscopy. Ureterorenoscopy is also sometimes known as retrograde intrarenal surgery (RIRS).
Ureterorenoscopy involves passing a long, thin telescope, called a ureteroscope, through your urethra (tube that carries urine from the bladder to the outside of the body) and into your bladder. It is then passed up into your ureter to where the stone is stuck.
The surgeon may either try gently to remove the stone using another instrument, or they may use laser energy to break the stone up into small pieces so that it can be passed naturally in your urine.
As with PCNL, ureterorenoscopy is also performed under general anaesthetic, so you should not drive or operate machinery for up to 48 hours after the procedure.
For stones up to 15mm (0.6in), an ureterorenoscopy is effective in 50-80% of cases.
You may need a plastic tube called a stent to be inserted temporarily inside you, to allow the stone fragments to drain into the bladder.
Copious amounts of anti-inflammatory, pain relief and anti-biotics.
You'll know when it happens
.I will get 24hrs notice and should have them done within 4 weeks.
28 March 2014, 11:48 AM
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ive had this done. its a procedure you will only want to do once believe me. what a day it was i,ll never forget it, ever! i got undressed into the stupid gown which shows off your ar$e and sat on the bed. a doc came round and explained what was about to happen, looking back i wish he hadnt! so a short time later 2 smirking young nurses come to the bed and swish the big curtains around the bed. (i know at this point this is starting to sound like a dodgy porno movie script but its far from it lol.) so they tell me to lift the gown and pull back the towel from the metal tray they are holding and there,s a syringe and a metal clamp which looks like some kind of torture device! (i know, i know, its sounding like a porno again lol) the syringe is full of numbing gel which they proceed to squirt up the old mans jap,s eye! bloody hell it was cold! then they clamp my old fella with this 18th century looking device which stops the gel seeping back out while it goes to work. they slink off sniggering and say they will be back in 15 mins or so. so im left sitting there with this cold stuff in my ***** making it feel numb but all i could think about was the comic strip wicked willie, and could imagine my *** looking up at me like the man in the iron mask saying " i,ll get you back for this you ba$tard!" so as im sitting there there seems to be a procession of nurses and doctors who poke their heads round the curtains for a peek. obviously the sniggering nurses told all the staff who came past for a giggle too! so back come the nurses still grinning like cheshire cats and start to wheel me to theatre. on the way a doctor stops and asks if i would mind if a few student doctors were present during the procedure? i thought what the hell half of the hospital have seen my old fella trussed up so why not ? so into the theatre we go and im under the big light and lie back preparing myself for this procedure ($hitting a brick to be honest!) to see around 12 students standing around me! 12!!! i thought maybe 2-3 at most ffs! it was like being wheeled in to the front of the screen at the local odeon cinema and the lights going up! next the surgeon leans over and he,s a very cheery fella and wants to chat! " how are we today?" "$hitting my pants!" is the answer i hear in my head but i stammer out " f-f-f- fine thanks" he then explains the procedure and shows me the probe he will be inserting. FFS!!! it was like a washing machine hose !! 
i thought it would be a skinny thing like those stupid fibre optic light strand things but was it ****! so off comes the iron mask and i can feel all the gel dribbling out. what a horrible feeling, it was like i just shot my bolt in front of a room full of strangers. not nice lol. he tells me to take a deep breath as he is about to begin and to try and relax and it will go in easier!!!! he,s about to stick a big hose up my todger with 12 people watching and he says relax! well that must have been the deepest breath i ever took in my life, i swear its a wonder the windows didnt smash with the Vacuum i created as i drew breath. what followed is the most uncomfortable feeling ive ever felt in my life, apart from sleeping on an ikea bed. robin williams once said passing a bowling ball is the closet man will ever get to childbirth. this has to rank alongside that no doubt. as a little parting shot the surgeon said to me after the ordeal that i could go away happy (happy! maybe if i was in some vice den and had just payed for the procedure i would be!) he had found no cancer and no abnormalities at all. he also said not many men would volunteer to have the procedure!! no $hit sherlock! so that was my experience of it fella but im sure it will be nothing like that for you (now im sniggering like those nurses) good luck tho it will be fine im sure 
i thought it would be a skinny thing like those stupid fibre optic light strand things but was it ****! so off comes the iron mask and i can feel all the gel dribbling out. what a horrible feeling, it was like i just shot my bolt in front of a room full of strangers. not nice lol. he tells me to take a deep breath as he is about to begin and to try and relax and it will go in easier!!!! he,s about to stick a big hose up my todger with 12 people watching and he says relax! well that must have been the deepest breath i ever took in my life, i swear its a wonder the windows didnt smash with the Vacuum i created as i drew breath. what followed is the most uncomfortable feeling ive ever felt in my life, apart from sleeping on an ikea bed. robin williams once said passing a bowling ball is the closet man will ever get to childbirth. this has to rank alongside that no doubt. as a little parting shot the surgeon said to me after the ordeal that i could go away happy (happy! maybe if i was in some vice den and had just payed for the procedure i would be!) he had found no cancer and no abnormalities at all. he also said not many men would volunteer to have the procedure!! no $hit sherlock! so that was my experience of it fella but im sure it will be nothing like that for you (now im sniggering like those nurses) good luck tho it will be fine im sure
28 March 2014, 02:03 PM
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ive had this done. its a procedure you will only want to do once believe me. what a day it was i,ll never forget it, ever! i got undressed into the stupid gown which shows off your ar$e and sat on the bed. a doc came round and explained what was about to happen, looking back i wish he hadnt! so a short time later 2 smirking young nurses come to the bed and swish the big curtains around the bed. (i know at this point this is starting to sound like a dodgy porno movie script but its far from it lol.) so they tell me to lift the gown and pull back the towel from the metal tray they are holding and there,s a syringe and a metal clamp which looks like some kind of torture device! (i know, i know, its sounding like a porno again lol) the syringe is full of numbing gel which they proceed to squirt up the old mans jap,s eye! bloody hell it was cold! then they clamp my old fella with this 18th century looking device which stops the gel seeping back out while it goes to work. they slink off sniggering and say they will be back in 15 mins or so. so im left sitting there with this cold stuff in my ***** making it feel numb but all i could think about was the comic strip wicked willie, and could imagine my *** looking up at me like the man in the iron mask saying " i,ll get you back for this you ba$tard!" so as im sitting there there seems to be a procession of nurses and doctors who poke their heads round the curtains for a peek. obviously the sniggering nurses told all the staff who came past for a giggle too! so back come the nurses still grinning like cheshire cats and start to wheel me to theatre. on the way a doctor stops and asks if i would mind if a few student doctors were present during the procedure? i thought what the hell half of the hospital have seen my old fella trussed up so why not ? so into the theatre we go and im under the big light and lie back preparing myself for this procedure ($hitting a brick to be honest!) to see around 12 students standing around me! 12!!! i thought maybe 2-3 at most ffs! it was like being wheeled in to the front of the screen at the local odeon cinema and the lights going up! next the surgeon leans over and he,s a very cheery fella and wants to chat! " how are we today?" "$hitting my pants!" is the answer i hear in my head but i stammer out " f-f-f- fine thanks" he then explains the procedure and shows me the probe he will be inserting. FFS!!! it was like a washing machine hose !! i thought it would be a skinny thing like those stupid fibre optic light strand things but was it ****! so off comes the iron mask and i can feel all the gel dribbling out. what a horrible feeling, it was like i just shot my bolt in front of a room full of strangers. not nice lol. he tells me to take a deep breath as he is about to begin and to try and relax and it will go in easier!!!! he,s about to stick a big hose up my todger with 12 people watching and he says relax! well that must have been the deepest breath i ever took in my life, i swear its a wonder the windows didnt smash with the Vacuum i created as i drew breath. what followed is the most uncomfortable feeling ive ever felt in my life, apart from sleeping on an ikea bed. robin williams once said passing a bowling ball is the closet man will ever get to childbirth. this has to rank alongside that no doubt. as a little parting shot the surgeon said to me after the ordeal that i could go away happy (happy! maybe if i was in some vice den and had just payed for the procedure i would be!) he had found no cancer and no abnormalities at all. he also said not many men would volunteer to have the procedure!! no $hit sherlock! so that was my experience of it fella but im sure it will be nothing like that for you (now im sniggering like those nurses) good luck tho it will be fine im sure
i thought it would be a skinny thing like those stupid fibre optic light strand things but was it ****! so off comes the iron mask and i can feel all the gel dribbling out. what a horrible feeling, it was like i just shot my bolt in front of a room full of strangers. not nice lol. he tells me to take a deep breath as he is about to begin and to try and relax and it will go in easier!!!! he,s about to stick a big hose up my todger with 12 people watching and he says relax! well that must have been the deepest breath i ever took in my life, i swear its a wonder the windows didnt smash with the Vacuum i created as i drew breath. what followed is the most uncomfortable feeling ive ever felt in my life, apart from sleeping on an ikea bed. robin williams once said passing a bowling ball is the closet man will ever get to childbirth. this has to rank alongside that no doubt. as a little parting shot the surgeon said to me after the ordeal that i could go away happy (happy! maybe if i was in some vice den and had just payed for the procedure i would be!) he had found no cancer and no abnormalities at all. he also said not many men would volunteer to have the procedure!! no $hit sherlock! so that was my experience of it fella but im sure it will be nothing like that for you (now im sniggering like those nurses) good luck tho it will be fine im sure 
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ive had this done. its a procedure you will only want to do once believe me. what a day it was i,ll never forget it, ever! i got undressed into the stupid gown which shows off your ar$e and sat on the bed. a doc came round and explained what was about to happen, looking back i wish he hadnt! so a short time later 2 smirking young nurses come to the bed and swish the big curtains around the bed. (i know at this point this is starting to sound like a dodgy porno movie script but its far from it lol.) so they tell me to lift the gown and pull back the towel from the metal tray they are holding and there,s a syringe and a metal clamp which looks like some kind of torture device! (i know, i know, its sounding like a porno again lol) the syringe is full of numbing gel which they proceed to squirt up the old mans jap,s eye! bloody hell it was cold! then they clamp my old fella with this 18th century looking device which stops the gel seeping back out while it goes to work. they slink off sniggering and say they will be back in 15 mins or so. so im left sitting there with this cold stuff in my ***** making it feel numb but all i could think about was the comic strip wicked willie, and could imagine my *** looking up at me like the man in the iron mask saying " i,ll get you back for this you ba$tard!" so as im sitting there there seems to be a procession of nurses and doctors who poke their heads round the curtains for a peek. obviously the sniggering nurses told all the staff who came past for a giggle too! so back come the nurses still grinning like cheshire cats and start to wheel me to theatre. on the way a doctor stops and asks if i would mind if a few student doctors were present during the procedure? i thought what the hell half of the hospital have seen my old fella trussed up so why not ? so into the theatre we go and im under the big light and lie back preparing myself for this procedure ($hitting a brick to be honest!) to see around 12 students standing around me! 12!!! i thought maybe 2-3 at most ffs! it was like being wheeled in to the front of the screen at the local odeon cinema and the lights going up! next the surgeon leans over and he,s a very cheery fella and wants to chat! " how are we today?" "$hitting my pants!" is the answer i hear in my head but i stammer out " f-f-f- fine thanks" he then explains the procedure and shows me the probe he will be inserting. FFS!!! it was like a washing machine hose !! i thought it would be a skinny thing like those stupid fibre optic light strand things but was it ****! so off comes the iron mask and i can feel all the gel dribbling out. what a horrible feeling, it was like i just shot my bolt in front of a room full of strangers. not nice lol. he tells me to take a deep breath as he is about to begin and to try and relax and it will go in easier!!!! he,s about to stick a big hose up my todger with 12 people watching and he says relax! well that must have been the deepest breath i ever took in my life, i swear its a wonder the windows didnt smash with the Vacuum i created as i drew breath. what followed is the most uncomfortable feeling ive ever felt in my life, apart from sleeping on an ikea bed. robin williams once said passing a bowling ball is the closet man will ever get to childbirth. this has to rank alongside that no doubt. as a little parting shot the surgeon said to me after the ordeal that i could go away happy (happy! maybe if i was in some vice den and had just payed for the procedure i would be!) he had found no cancer and no abnormalities at all. he also said not many men would volunteer to have the procedure!! no $hit sherlock! so that was my experience of it fella but im sure it will be nothing like that for you (now im sniggering like those nurses) good luck tho it will be fine im sure
i thought it would be a skinny thing like those stupid fibre optic light strand things but was it ****! so off comes the iron mask and i can feel all the gel dribbling out. what a horrible feeling, it was like i just shot my bolt in front of a room full of strangers. not nice lol. he tells me to take a deep breath as he is about to begin and to try and relax and it will go in easier!!!! he,s about to stick a big hose up my todger with 12 people watching and he says relax! well that must have been the deepest breath i ever took in my life, i swear its a wonder the windows didnt smash with the Vacuum i created as i drew breath. what followed is the most uncomfortable feeling ive ever felt in my life, apart from sleeping on an ikea bed. robin williams once said passing a bowling ball is the closet man will ever get to childbirth. this has to rank alongside that no doubt. as a little parting shot the surgeon said to me after the ordeal that i could go away happy (happy! maybe if i was in some vice den and had just payed for the procedure i would be!) he had found no cancer and no abnormalities at all. he also said not many men would volunteer to have the procedure!! no $hit sherlock! so that was my experience of it fella but im sure it will be nothing like that for you (now im sniggering like those nurses) good luck tho it will be fine im sure Nothing compared to bladder op though to remove a 14mm stone. Now that really hurt afterwards.
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Pfffft the lot of you, i had mine done in stafford hospital, a quick squirt of that gel up my old man and straight in whilst 2 blokes held my shoulders down, none of this leaving it for 15 mins malarky there!
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Made it worse that one of the nurses lived around the corner from me. Every time I walk past her house now I imagine she's saying to herself " there's that bloke with the massive **** walking past " 
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29 March 2014, 12:08 AM
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I feel for you, colic pains are very painful.
I had two 5mm stones but fortunately seem to have peed them.
Keep drinking loads (1.5-2lt per day) and hopefully you will pee them too without having to go through the above procedure.
I try to drink mineral water mostly after this, tap water is too hard, not sure if that had contributed.
I had two 5mm stones but fortunately seem to have peed them.
Keep drinking loads (1.5-2lt per day) and hopefully you will pee them too without having to go through the above procedure.
I try to drink mineral water mostly after this, tap water is too hard, not sure if that had contributed.
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Was advised by my consultant to be careful of the calcium content in mineral water some of which is very high. If I drink it now I tend to buy Volvic which has a low calcium content.
30 March 2014, 07:47 AM
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My dad has had 5 yes 5 so called treatments to ave his removed and twice they put this claw thing up his bell end only to push the stone back in!
After the 5 time the specalist said that he will be doing the 6th one. When my dad asked who had been doing them before he said the trainees..
What makes it worse is that every time the shock waves and grabby thing fail they go back to square one and say lets start again.
It's appalling the treatment / service and Milton Keynes hospital.
It doesn't help that one of his kidneys is shot and he doesn't like drinking water. He doesn't drink anything really.
He now has a stint which IIRC should only be in 6 months?
After the 5 time the specalist said that he will be doing the 6th one. When my dad asked who had been doing them before he said the trainees..
What makes it worse is that every time the shock waves and grabby thing fail they go back to square one and say lets start again.
It's appalling the treatment / service and Milton Keynes hospital.
It doesn't help that one of his kidneys is shot and he doesn't like drinking water. He doesn't drink anything really.
He now has a stint which IIRC should only be in 6 months?
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