trails

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...pics of above; preferably if you have a classic and a fmic but any will do

ian

Tidgy

can just see it, the lighter patch on the right of th ecar (left as you look at the pic) behind the fron grill

old bob

ive thought bout this before, but my oil takes so long to warm up as it is,

trails

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always been of the same opinion, but at the price of the Mocal kit I picked up it was too good value to ignore

trails

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thanks Tidgy.

frayz

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You need a thermostatic oil cooler setup in that case.

Besides, an oil cooler is only worth fitting if you do track work, or have raised the oem RPM limit.

Tidgy

don't agree mate, was seeing dangerously high oil tempts on mine in the summer, with very little effort. oil cooler has brought temps way down, even when giving it nail lol

Tidgy

nee probs

old bob

ive seen mine hit just below 95 degrees sitting in traffic running 10/60 millers, oil cooler wont help then? the rest of the time it sits around 70, surely you can cool to much then oil wont be working as it should, or am i understanding that wrong?

scoobchrissy

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Same here Tidgy

frayz

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What are you measuring the temps with?

Modern oils are okay up to about 110deg c, i normally cap it at that.

Onb the road, even with a right pasting a struggle to see 105 deg. Thats with regular trips to the rev limit too.

old bob

really? ive never seen mine above 80 while thrashing hard, maybe i should try harder

ScoobyDoo69

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I've seen 110deg C nailing my WRX through some back roads.. I agree with the idea of having one, if maybe best on a thermostat though.

scoobchrissy

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frayz mine kept nudging up to 105 then dropping down to 95 so thought it was safer to have one fitted

scooby-tc

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Oil cooler is standard on my car so i really couldnt compare but on track i didnt see over 95

The Stitcher

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here is mine but i have changed it to a smaller row black mocal, the blue one in the pic is a 19 row and the new one is now a 16 row and is run by a mocal sandwich plate with thermostat built in to it hope this helps

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trails

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I think a thermostatic option would be most suitable for me...can anyone tell me more?

Dutch Scooby lover

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A little question, but this seems the correct topic to hook it in to.
I have my oil cooler mounted in the same place as Tidgy, but horizontal.

The in-and outlet are pointing downwards.
Does that have negative effect, like the oil-cooler draining and possible letting air get to the oil pump at every start.

scoobyDAZZA

totally agree , i haven't got one but do lots of drag racing
after 3 races with no queues it is about 110 , so i stop for half hour then start again

don't do track days though or i would definitly have 1

on the motorway at 'average' speeds it normally stays between 90 - 100

frayz

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I have this one going on my new build, its a Hyperflow thermostatic top mounted jobbie

trails

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Frayz, tell me more about the thermostatic option please...Ta!

cav400

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with a thermostatic it opens at a set temp say like 85 so your oil is not too cold . if you dont have one it will be open all the time even from cold start . witch is not a good thing for a rd car . you dont want it too open too soon ie a low temp . try Welcome to the home of Mocal oil coolers and components - Think Auto thay do different temp opening ones

banny sti

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Frayz the top mount position is not the best for an oil cooler.

Banny

trails

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thanks Cav400, I have a Mocal sandwich plate which I think allows me to fit a thermostat...I'll have to check model numbers this evening

Tidgy

tbh, not sure lol

mine is set like that withhot feed at top, cold exit at bottom, so the oil cools as it drops down the inside the cooler.

could see the heat transfering from the inlet direct to the exit meaning the full benefit of the cooler isn't felt if you mount inlet and exit at same height, but thats just a guess lol

Tidgy

when the temos rise the cooler will help if you fit it where mine is, the cooling fan helps blow air over it making it work, but it isn't as effective as when its moving, cos when i stop it goes up a bit, untill the fan kicks in lol

The Rig

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i dont have an oil cooler as such, but i have reloacted my oil filter to behind the drivers headlight.

makes filter change that much easier too.

i saw temps highest of 98 in the road in the summer after about 45 mins driving moderate/hard.

one summer day, car left all day,8 hrs, got in it and the temp started off at 40 degrees instead of the usual 0 !!!

Tidgy

how have you relocated it?

The Rig

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blanking plate where the oil filter should go which has 2 hose unions on it,one hose goes to where the oil filter is now, the other back down to where it used to be.

so the oil gets pumped up to behind the head light (filter) then back down into engine.

Tidgy

ahh right i get ya, you'll prob find the pipe works helps disapate heat anyway