Guest

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Having done a recent track day I've decided I need to get the basic gauges fitted into the car to keep a closer eye on things. Plenty of reading up on here has led me to believe the minimum I need is oil pressure (very important) oil temperature and turbo boost. Have fitted a boost gauge before so no problems there there's loads out there.

My problem is I've got a V3 UK Turbo with the pre facelift dash, so there's no handy compartment on the dash to take a triple pod. I want the car to stay looking neat and OEM inside, I don't want random gauges screwed in all over the place so long story short my only option is to have a double pod fitted to the A pillar.

That means however that I need to find an oil gauge that shows the temperature and pressure in one 52mm unit. The cheapest I've been able to find are made by Racetech and retail at a hundred quid! When I consider I'd be able to buy the two individual gauges for about £15 each from Autogauges or similar that seems a bit steep to me, so was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for other makes out there?

To anyone who isn't sure what I'm on about I'm after one of these:



That perhaps isn't so expensive and doesn't look so bloody awful

Cheers guys!

alcazar

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Save up for a decent gauge.

Buy cheap, buy trouble and poor readings.

There would seem little point in gauges that give inaccurate readings, no?

Get the Racetech..you know it makes sense.

Or better still: http://www.spa-uk.co.uk/design/produ...ils/?objid=129

PROPER accuracy selectable backlighting........

Guest

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Bugger, was hoping you wouldn't say that! I guess what I'm after is a fairly specialist motorsport application, but I'd hoped there was a decent quality better value option out there, like getting Prosport gauges instead of Defi! If nobody knows of any id rather ruin my interior and try and fit a third gauge in somewhere than fork out a ton for just one! For a hundred quid I could have all three decent quality middle of the road gauges fitted with enough left over for a happy meal!

alcazar

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Yep.

And let's say you paid £5000 for your Scoob.

For £1000 you could have had a tricked out Saxo VTS.
But you didn't.
WHY didn't you?

Buy cheap, repent at leisure.

Guest

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Aha, funny you should say that as my last car WAS a tricked out saxo vts that I'd spent the best part of 1600 quid on including purchasing and modifying it, and I then bought my Scooby for 800 as it was a much cheaper way to get the speed I wanted, the power gains per £ are much higher with the scoob, a simple turbo, injector change and a remap will give you 100bhp on a Subaru, you'd have to spend thousands to get the equivelant power increase out of a already highly tuned 1.6 na engine!

Anyway, ill keep an eye out possibly for a second hand racetech or similar, one other option I've seen is an oil pressure gauge with a digital voltage display in built, anyone know if I could connect a temp sensor to the input for that for a digital readout? Obviously would give me the senders voltage output but I guess I'd be able to see the oil temperature in stages, say from 1 to 5 or 12 or whatever range the sender operates at.

alcazar

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I don't think that would work, a voltmeter is different beast.

Just wait it out and save up. Something might crop up.

I waited ages for a decent set of doorcards for mine to turn up on e-bay, finally gort them for £60, selling my old grey ones for £30. The new ones were mint, and came with all the switches etc, which I also sold on e-bay.

jura11

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Second option is go with S.E.C.S. PSI3 Data/ECU monitor which have all this in one and can work on yours too,but someone this can confirm

About the gauges,yes SPA is great and really nicely made,plus quality is just amazing

This can be next option is this gauge

http://www.elise-shop.com/high-preci...-p-502176.html

Jura

Guest

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Wow, that Elise shop gauge is almost exactly what I'm after, looks a lot better than the racetech and shows both oil and water temperatures plus battery voltage for only 67 quid! Exactly why I asked this question, I was after a 52mm ideally but I guess it's lot of info to show on a smaller gauge so ill make do!

Midlife......

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SECS is not good for looking at fluctuationg values like boost / pressure. The SECS is OK for looking at temp as that shouldn't change vastly over a few seconds.......even then you need a Defi sender.

I've got a SECS but have installed a proper analogue / dial oil pressure guage.

Shaun

DT-SPD

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If space is an issue you could make up a circuit that uses some temp and pressure sensors to turn on/off a bi-colour LED. I made a little device that illuminates the LED blue when oil is cold and red when too hot ( no light = OK temp ). Same could be done with pressure if needed.

mickywrx

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That's a really good idea.

Good find, Jura.

Guest

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Deffo some good suggestions here guys

mickywrx

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Idea, single gauge pod for boost and one of these for oil temp/pressure and something else.

http://www.milsport.co.uk/cgi-bin/ju...t_type=Classic

However, I'm not sure of the heater controls on a UK turbo, so may be a non-starter.

Guest

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My heater controls are different, however if I can find a triple gauge holder that replaces the centre vents I'd have both oil ones and the boost in there!

alcazar

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So make your own?

ruckus racing

Defi makes a fantastic triple gauge st that fits into any open single DIN slot, but kinda pricey. the 3 gauges that come in the set just happen to be the 3 you mentioned

petethemeat

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This one does boost / oil temp / oil pressure and voltage - all in one been considering it myself
http://elise-shop.com/high-precision...-p-502177.html

DT-SPD

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I'm also looking at the 4-in-1 gauge. The one at elise-shop.com looks very much like a Depo one, however the Depo is a lot more money.

Anyone know the difference between the two ?? ( apart from price )

Link to Depo Gauge

alcazar

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Ring the Elise shop and ask them?
UK office: +44 - 1628 - 878882 / fax +44 - 8447 - 741492

petethemeat

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I don't know the differences between the two. The Elise one comes in at 91 delivered so about £40 cheaper.

I wanted an all in one so I could put it in the heater vent, after the drive home today it looks like the wheel could slightly obscure the gauge face though

alcazar

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On that Elise site, the price seems to be in €?

petethemeat

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Yeah it is until you create an account and log in then the price reverts to £££

redwards

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While all 3 of the gauges you mention are usefull. I would definately add a water temp gauge. If there's problems, your water will start to boil quicker than your oil. You can't rely on the factory water temp gauge as they are dumbed down.

alcazar

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Agreed, but the car lacks those three and HAS a w/t gauge, rudimentary or not, so most flk fit those first.
I did, then went f/p and w/t.

rickya

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The Elise 4 in 1 does not include ancillaries etc IIRC. The Depo one does, but don't use prolex to buy from they are rubbish.

ksg10

http://www.vgauges.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_30

Thoughts? I'm interested in the oil temp/pressure combo and the boost/wideband combo.

Scoobyn

Im after the Elise one but want to keep my boost gauge aswell so im struggling to find a twin A pillar pod for it, (with it being 60mm) anyone any suggestions?

Guest

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Gonna bump this as I've also been struggling to find a tidy 60mm pod for a classic scooby interior!

jura11

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Have look for AutoMeter gauge pillar pod or ATi steering column pod


Jura

FlipC

Reviving an old thread ...

Anyone ever buy and use that Depot Racing 4-1 gauge?

If yes- please state how long
Accurate?