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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Hello there wanted a scooby since I was a kid but only just started being able to afford one mainly due to ridicules insurance lol. Have just started properly looking into them and am getting pretty confused between what model to get.

Things I do no:
Going to get a first gen
Going to get a 2L turbo

Things I'm not sure on:
What years ecu's are remapable
Get an Import or not (insurance is roughly the same)

There basically the two questions I need some help on, have seen some nice ones around the 2k mark that's about my budget really

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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Other things you need to take in to account.

Can I afford to buy one - Yup
Can I afford to Insure it - Yup
Can I afford to run it (Petrol, tyres, brakes etc....) ????

If you go remap and you have just hit a barrier when you can afford insurance, it will be even more with a remap.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Are you sure insurance is the same? The UK classic was about 215bhp and the Jap import (WRX) about 260bhp I believe. That's quite a difference.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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I will be able to afford the running cost as I no when my salary is going up at work and got a rise end of this month, the main reason I want to no what years ecus you can remap is so I can future proof it so when I get other rises and start remapping I don't hit an expensive brick wall

And the insurance isn't the same there's about £100 in it
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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I'd go JDM then personally. Finding a good unabused one will be the challenge.

I sold my totally standard 1996 WRX back in 2006. Saw in on AT 5 year later and it looked like it had been crashed into Halfords. Miraculously lost 30k miles too. Heartbreaking stuff!

Good luck with the hunt.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Scooby is what ***** refer to them as.
Its a Subaru
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:30 PM
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This is going to sound like a proper noob question but what are the JDM Subaru's standard turbo? Are they TD04 or 5? Reason I ask is because I have seen one with a TD05 on and wondering if it was standard or has been change

And aren't we on the scoobynet forum tubbytommy? Lol
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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Most JDM WRXs have a TD05. I think some of the wagons of certain years have a TD04.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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Ok sweet thanks for the reply's think I will be looking for an import, just need to no what years to look out for now for the ECU
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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fresh import or a very low miles 99/00 Turbo 2000 and use it as a weekend car
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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Right done some more research and from what I can see

Years 92 - 98 you have to get a daughter board from ESL £295+vat+map

Years 99 - 00 you have to get a daughter board from Ecutec £550+vat+map

Does this sound about right?
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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Or

Year 92 - 00 daughter board from alcatec gets rid of MAF sensor. £880 supplied, fitted and custom mapped also can get launch control + anti lag for £150 more
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboTD04
Right done some more research and from what I can see

Years 99 - 00 you have to get a daughter board from Ecutec £550+vat+map

Does this sound about right?
No the original ECU is remappable with Ecutec.
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Old Mar 10, 2014 | 08:14 PM
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Ye the original ones remappable with ESL as well
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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97/8 ESL now also have ALS, LC, FlatShift and traction control for an extra £100.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Just to clarify that ALS is anti lag and LC launch control?
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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Right just watched a YouTube video and answered my own question there haha. That's pretty impressive!!! And also brings up a few more questions these being:

If I bought a subaru 97/98 with ESL already on it but with out the additional features would I be able to pay £100 to get them added on or is it a bit more involved than that?

Also I no I asked earlier if the JDM subarus have TD05 turbos as standard but do the UK versions 97/98 have them as standard as well?

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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 09:02 PM
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Yes they can be added retrospectively. TD05-16g is onthe 92/6 mdoels, 97/8 UK have td04s
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 09:06 PM
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Ok sweet thank you for the info, have heard the Td05-18g are one of the best ones to go for if picking a turbo would you agree? Think I may go for a JDM 97/98 will be looking out for the knocking on start up though

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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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Set your power goal and then select the smallest turbo to achieve it to get best response. The td05-16g is a great turbo, robust, direct fit, 330hp achievable on pump fuel all else being well and I've bought working ones for £50.

ESL also has twin maps so a cheap way to extra power is to run a 20% methanol mix map. We got 550hp out of a stock location GT30 with 20% meth, it makes a big difference and is cheaper to buy than SUL.
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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That sounds good to me! I'm aiming for 300 mark so will just keep the TD05-16g.

One more question sorry to bore you haha but as import cars are a bit all over the place when it comes to documents is there any easy ways to visually tell if the car is a 97/98?

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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 11:36 PM
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97/8 have a "facelift", ie. different bonnet, grill and lights. The ECUs are 3 plug rather than 4 plug.
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 08:36 AM
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ok thanks for the info been really helpful also found some info on how to check it with the VIN as well according to this site i need either a "D" or "E" in the fourth character of the "applied model" section. Is that right?

http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/wrx.html
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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Also I am fairly sure the coil pack will be central on the intake. Later 99-00 it is offset. Earlier and the coil packs are on individual plugs,
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