Black_beast

Just about getting my Scooby up together,,, it's 99 uk,, I just wanna get around 280bhp at moment,,,as far as I know it's standard from what I can tell? Is it worth just getting same year ecu from a sti? Or can this not be done? Or what would be needed to do so as it seems rather expensive?

Any help would be great help as I have not a clue as never had this done before,,,

wotagr8bigchief

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STI ecu is a no go mate, buy a chipped ecu for your model or just buy the chip. Polar performance/eclipse chips are around £80 new or a chipped ecu can be bought for around £50-£75 second hand. You will need to do the supporting mods if you haven't already, off the top of my head I think its just panel filter and 3" exhaust system pref with a de-cat. The chip will raise the boost to around 1.1 bar which should give you around the 280 mark.

Bean1984

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Best off buying all ya mods 1st mate n store them to the side. When you got all ya bits get them all fitted with a simtek ecu remap service then youll have a big smile on your face

Turbotits

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Get you mods together. The o/e ecu can then be mapped. 280 on the td04 turbo will be dificult though. 270 is where they tend to max out

Shaks-STI

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Decat
panel filter
VF23/24
440cc
remap oe ecu job done.

seaside matt

they any good eclipse? not too far from me

MrNoisy

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My old bugeye wrx made 281 on a TD04; only mods were a green panel filter, STI up pipe, Prodrive sports cat and decat centre on Sainsburys 97.
It very much seems to vary from car to car

Black_beast

Well don't seem to have a lot of luck with vf turbos as of late had a few and seals are gone or bearing is whining etc,,, What else is there? Rather have the low to mid range power the top end

Black_beast

What are the td04 hybrid like? Or is it best for a vf turbo?

MrNoisy

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Do a quick search mate you'll find PLENTY of results

Tidgy

its a uk calssic, not a new age wrx according to the info, exect 260 and anything more is a bonus.

MrNoisy

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Yes Tidgy but it's a '99 which means it'll be running a TD04 won't it? I thought they changed from the 16g's from the later classic shapes. If its running a 16g probably will make more power.
I'd expect more than 260 if the OP has gone full decat surely! The intercooler can't be that much of a limiting factor!

Tidgy

no, other way round matey, 99 will be on a TD04, they max out there or there abouts, mine ran 259bhp when decat and mapped

MrNoisy

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My TD04 (newage admittedly) ran 281 on a sports cat and mapped by JGM. I didn't think the engines were that markedly different that it would be 20 horses less?

chocolate_o_brian

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See my signature for my results on the following mods...

• 3" Cobrasport decat (2.5" flange join though so not true 3") £200 s/h
• Walbro 255 fuel pump (very important) £60 b/n
• Green Cotton panel filter £20 s/h BUT only 60 miles old
• NGK "7" heat plugs over standard "6" (whatever associated letters) £40
• ECUteked standard ECU £140
• Standard TD04 nowt
• Bob Rawle mapped to 1.45bar boost (safe limit on standard turbo) £280 for custom map on MY mods

Above mods cost in bold...

General figures (from Bobs mouth) are 270-280 if you have a tip top turbo and not a tired unit. He could have squeezed more out but at extra unnecessary stress to the turbo.

Graph below...

winston69

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Is that graph from Bob? Interested as having my first remap with him on the 26th

chocolate_o_brian

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Yes mate. I was very impresed with the figures but more so just the difference and extra boost when driving.

Are you going down to him for road mapping?

winston69

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yeah, collecting my car from Ryan then going straight down to meet Bob at his

chocolate_o_brian

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One bar in 4th - floor it...


You'll know what I mean on the 26th

winston69

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haha not the first time I've heard that

MrNoisy

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COB impressive torque figure from a TD04!
Not a AF hybrid unit? 2.0 block? Seems very high so interested in hearing about that.
I can't check what my old one made as I've sold the car and hence all map printouts went with it; assume that was v-power/momentum.

So to the OP - you *should* be able to do 270-280 with the right mods no probs and you *are* running a TD04 like I suggested in the first place, which should be capable of making those figures
Oh, but prepare to empty your wallet when you think you could handle more power

chocolate_o_brian

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Nope, standard TD04 as with a hybrid (Andy F) I would have achieved 300-320 bhp

As Bob Rawle said I just have a 'happy' turbo. When I bought my wagon it was totally standard and showed no sign of ever being modified and returned to standard as some do. Even down to the exhaust system, wheels and even the sticker on the door card

I've no reason to doubt Bobs figures as I wasn't chasing figures really, just exploiting what's there

Tidgy

sounds a bit optimistic figures wise for effectivley decat and remap on a TD04, but prob in the upper end of the results.

That said anything above 260 is a bonus, results vary from car to car but 280's tend to be from new age not classics.

timmyajmy93wrx

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i'd look at HRC fuel pumps rather than Walbro, they are cheaper & from what i have heard better made & quieter.
I prefer it on mine to my walbro.

chocolate_o_brian

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Sure Bob would argue the optimistic case but as said, I'm not figure chasing like some do

I go with what the graph says from a respected mapper with accurate figures

MrNoisy

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Had to ask - are these the estimates taken from laptop software (Delta Dash?) as opposed to an actual rolling road printout? I'm assuming it's the former.

I know it's mainly about being happy with the car (and glad you are), but FYI my friend also had his Hawk mapped by Bob, and was told the car was making around 380, when in fact it was around 340.

I should point out that he's still very happy with the car, but it's worth being aware that Delta Dash figures do seem to be rather over-estimated in comparison to how the car performs on a proper rolling road. Like you say, it's just as much about being happy with the car as chasing figures (for some lol)!

chocolate_o_brian

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The car was road mapped if it makes any difference. And it gets driven on a road not a rolling road hense my 'neither here or there' attitude with number chasing. And having had a 'play' (on my personal private runway) with a standard ish newage STi, I'd say those figures are accurate

MrNoisy

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Standard STI newages are only 265 mate so strictly speaking you could add a decat up pipe, full exhaust and panel filter and see one off

Black_beast

So If I'm right my ecu is a ecu tek one and will need to pay a licence fee to mapper?? Before he can map it,,

Can I not just find one that had already been paid for and then get it mapped?