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Old 29 September 2011, 09:11 PM
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hi,any tips regarding fitting a new turbo on a 98 sti type r would be appriciated as im not 100% sure which order to it.i am aware of the downpipe bolts etc,id just like to know the best way to go about it.i will have a new up pipe gasket also.
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Old 29 September 2011, 09:12 PM
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ill be removing vf24 and replacing with vf48.
Old 29 September 2011, 09:18 PM
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give me the vf24 if not broken and come to me and ill do it with u
Old 29 September 2011, 09:22 PM
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id spray the bolts with some wd40 the night before as they can be a right pig
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Originally Posted by Martin 2010
give me the vf24 if not broken and come to me and ill do it with u
the vf24 is in excellent condition,and i already have a helping hand,but cheers for the offer matey.
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Originally Posted by ukimpreza
id spray the bolts with some wd40 the night before as they can be a right pig
yep will do,i was wondering if there is a "prefered" procedure regarding oil and water lines and refitment once removed.dont want to make hard work of something if not necessary.or is it just a common sense job?
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don't think there is a preferred method what id do though once turbo fitted is disconnect cam and crank pulley and crank engine over a few times to make sure theres oil at the turbo before firing engine up.
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Originally Posted by ukimpreza
don't think there is a preferred method what id do though once turbo fitted is disconnect cam and crank pulley and crank engine over a few times to make sure theres oil at the turbo before firing engine up.

is fitting a new turbo a fairly easy job?im also heatwrapping downpipe and changing centre section so ill be removing the complete exhaust system,how long should the turbo change take roughly?
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its not a hard job although the bolts that hold it do up pipe arent the easiest to get to id say if all goes well around the hour, but who knows, only takes one fixing to create alot of hard work.
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Originally Posted by ukimpreza
its not a hard job although the bolts that hold it do up pipe arent the easiest to get to id say if all goes well around the hour, but who knows, only takes one fixing to create alot of hard work.
ok mate,what about fluid loss?does oil and water **** out?
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you will loose a little water and a tiny bit of oil but that's about all. once turbo fitted and primed ( cranked with sensors unplugged) and anti freeze topped up just run up to temp and bleed any air out water system and you'll be good to go.
p.s don't just stick water in, put some anti freeze in as well as i've seen engines that people have topped up with water in the summer, freeze in the winter (anti freeze too diluted)
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Originally Posted by ukimpreza
you will loose a little water and a tiny bit of oil but that's about all. once turbo fitted and primed ( cranked with sensors unplugged) and anti freeze topped up just run up to temp and bleed any air out water system and you'll be good to go.
p.s don't just stick water in, put some anti freeze in as well as i've seen engines that people have topped up with water in the summer, freeze in the winter (anti freeze too diluted)
when you say bleed any air out of the system,can you explain what i would need to do?
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i always remove the small pipe between the top of rad and the header tank ( don't confuse with over flow that connects to a pipe that runs over top of red) and wait until water is flowing out of rad pipe then all air should be out.
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Originally Posted by ukimpreza
i always remove the small pipe between the top of rad and the header tank ( don't confuse with over flow that connects to a pipe that runs over top of red) and wait until water is flowing out of rad pipe then all air should be out.
not sure exactly which pipe you mean?is this something that defo has to be done?
also do all the bolts for downpipe and uppipe have to be done to specific torque setting or just do them up evenly and tight?
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clamp the water line before removing from turbo. ( will save u losing it and gettin wet lol )
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i would also check the oil feed bonjo just to make sure you have the right one might be diffrent on the vf48 compared to your old turbo. just take your time mate its easy once you get started
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Originally Posted by Martin 2010
clamp the water line before removing from turbo. ( will save u losing it and gettin wet lol )

and also stop any air problems?
Old 30 September 2011, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tee-
i would also check the oil feed bonjo just to make sure you have the right one might be diffrent on the vf48 compared to your old turbo. just take your time mate its easy once you get started
good thinking batman....will do.
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Would also be good to employ a couple of spark plugs to aid in......... whatever......... LOL!

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Originally Posted by joz8968
Would also be good to employ a couple of spark plugs to aid in......... whatever......... LOL!

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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon

and also stop any air problems?
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Originally Posted by 99greenwagon
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Yeah, if you pre-clamp that turbo hose to the tank, then you won't let any coolant out (other than what's already between from that point, through to the turbo). Plus it will prevent air from getting in too.

But still 'burp' the system in the normal way when topping up after the VF48 has been installed, as its waterway will be full of air, obviously.


Perhaps you could use a spark plug to bung the turbo coolant pipe instead of a clamp (I reckon it'd fit like a glove)....

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Originally Posted by joz8968
Yeah, if you pre-clamp that turbo hose to the tank, then you won't let any coolant out (other than what's already between from that point, through to the turbo). Plus it will prevent air from getting in too.

But still 'burp' the system in the normal way when topping up after the VF48 has been installed, as its waterway will be full of air, obviously.


Perhaps you could use a spark plug to bung the turbo coolant pipe instead of a clamp (I reckon it'd fit like a glove)....
lol,how do you "burp" the system the normal way?i have never had to do it and have no idea what to do..
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Originally Posted by joz8968
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there is so many different methods! which is the correct easy way then joz?
which way would you do it?
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You should be okay just topping up via the header tank and warming engine up with heater set to hot. As the coolant gets hot it will expand and bubble up a bit (air rising to the top and escaping). Keep topping up and checking that the temp gauge stays constant. Top up for one last time. Use a highly absorbent cloth or airline to soak up/blow away the spilt coolant. Obviously you won;t be able to go for a test drive using boost (unmapped turbo fitted), but it should be okay.

When engine is cold (left overnight) recheck the coolant level and top up as necessary.

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Originally Posted by joz8968
You should be okay just topping up via the header tank and warming engine up with heater set to hot. As the coolant gets hot it will expand and bubble up a bit (air rising to the top and escaping). Keep topping up and checking that the temp gauge stays constant. Top up for one last time. Obviously you won;t be able to go for a test drive using boost (unmapped turbo fitted), but it should be okay.

When engine is cold (left overnight) recheck the coolant level and top up as necessary.
thanks joz,piece of **** then lol.
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...And of course, make sure the heater is chucking out hot air when set to hot on a warmed up engine. If not, then an airlock is prob present...
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Originally Posted by joz8968
...And of course, make sure the heater is chucking out hot air when set to hot on a warmed up engine. If not, then an airlock is prob present...
thanks joz,is it ok to just top up the small amount with water? or can i mix different coolant?,the coolant is a bluey/greeny colour and i have no idea what make etc it is.
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Depends on how much coolant is lost after you fit the turbo. I'd play safe and pre-mix a 50-50 mix, rather than risk diluting the existing coolant.


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