what is a tmic's max bhp
29 July 2011, 03:22 PM
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what is a tmic's max bhp
what is the max i can take my 2002 sti to before i need a fmic?
was hoping to get to 330 with the std turbo, or concidering u/g to a tdo5, to get another 40 ish bhp..
Also, what price should i be looking at for a used TD05 - 20G?
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was hoping to get to 330 with the std turbo, or concidering u/g to a tdo5, to get another 40 ish bhp..
Also, what price should i be looking at for a used TD05 - 20G?
Cheers
29 July 2011, 03:42 PM
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I don't know what differences there are between the MY02 and MY03> STI TMIC's. Assuming they are as effecient as the MY03> TMIC's it will certainly handle 400bhp.
29 July 2011, 03:45 PM
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Thanks Shaun, that could be the diff. in getting this done, got to pay for the new motor as well, just one thing in your opinion would i see much diff. in performance from say 330 to 370 ish, or wouldnt it be worth the hassle / cost?
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29 July 2011, 03:50 PM
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Was ok with about 330 ish, but my pays just been round and has pointed out that for just a couple of hundred quid extra i can go to 370 ish (td05 - my old vf35), dont know if its worth the bother, what do you all think?
29 July 2011, 03:54 PM
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If its worth extra 40bhp for few hundred £,yes and no,if its budget tight,get your car mapped and enjoy what you have,if budget can be stretched i would go for something which give you nice spool and power too like 18G or VF34,20G is OK,but if you could go for SC46 billet,expensive turbo,but nice and spooly turbo.
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29 July 2011, 04:06 PM
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29 July 2011, 04:24 PM
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As you know will suffer,yes you can decline this,but still truth is there.
And about the FMIC and TMIC,its tested if you are going from TMIC to FMIC you will gain bhp,not just peace of mind.
Specifically i ad above,if he want car tracked(track days etc.) will suffer...
And lag is just marginal from properly mapped FMIC.I've run on VF34 or TD04 without the problem and lag has been just marginal(or just small,which you are just seen on RR).
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29 July 2011, 04:28 PM
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Depends what you want,try run 330bhp(or thereabouts) and you will see if its enough,i've run few months VF34 with 350bhp and difference from 275bhp has been nice.
If its worth extra 40bhp for few hundred £,yes and no,if its budget tight,get your car mapped and enjoy what you have,if budget can be stretched i would go for something which give you nice spool and power too like 18G or VF34,20G is OK,but if you could go for SC46 billet,expensive turbo,but nice and spooly turbo.
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If its worth extra 40bhp for few hundred £,yes and no,if its budget tight,get your car mapped and enjoy what you have,if budget can be stretched i would go for something which give you nice spool and power too like 18G or VF34,20G is OK,but if you could go for SC46 billet,expensive turbo,but nice and spooly turbo.
Jura
regarding SC46 billet, whats the av price, also would i need anything else, as with the TD05 i can keep tmic injectors etc which is keeping the cost down.
no track days planed tbh, never done one in a car (loads on bikes) not that bothered tbh..
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29 July 2011, 04:35 PM
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I ran a TD05 16G with mods on an STi TMIC strapped to a Bug. Mapped by Bob Rawle and what a great car to drive 
. 330 BHP didn't overcome the suspension nor my crappy driving skills (well, not often).
Shaun
. 330 BHP didn't overcome the suspension nor my crappy driving skills (well, not often).Shaun
29 July 2011, 04:35 PM
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My wrx was running 315, so would like more than that tbh, but having said that money is a bit tight with everything else, but the way i look at it if the engines out and a new map nxt week i would be daft not to have it done right now.
regarding SC46 billet, whats the av price, also would i need anything else, as with the TD05 i can keep tmic injectors etc which is keeping the cost down.
no track days planed tbh, never done one in a car (loads on bikes) not that bothered tbh..
regarding SC46 billet, whats the av price, also would i need anything else, as with the TD05 i can keep tmic injectors etc which is keeping the cost down.
no track days planed tbh, never done one in a car (loads on bikes) not that bothered tbh..
Because i've seen you have in avatar STi
315bhp vs 330bhp is not big difference,you are have decatted exhaust and decatted up pipe,i would also contact here regarding Up pipe with Ported headers Harvey.
SC46 is around £1.600,its lot of money and not sure if its worth,this turbo is 460bhp+,which seems will be enough for you
With TD05 you will be maxed injectors,you will need at least get your injectors reflowed to bigger cc or go for 650cc,or you can stick with 550cc,but you will need at least FPR..
If you are not planing Track days stick with your TMIC,until you want more BHP(400bhp+),personally i went for FMIC,due i've WRX and WRX TMIC is OK to 320-330bhp at the top.
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29 July 2011, 04:39 PM
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doing the same myslef mate. If your pushing past 370 I was advised to get 650cc injectors (second hand about £200+/-), im keeping my top mount for now as my journeys are short and i rarely drive continously hard im not planning on going on track this year so its not much of a concern but as jura says its probably safer to go front mount. If you can find one, an MD321h is probably the best bet but mega hard to find so i settled on a harvey td05 20g. And one last thing get a 3 port boost solenoid also headers are probably a good idea if your after the magic 400.
also headers are probably a good idea if your after the magic 400.
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29 July 2011, 04:55 PM
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arghhh my heads spinning now
yes i have got a 2002 Sti bug, my last car was a 2001 wrx bug.... with all the sti bits on it... Spent - AND lost a fortune when i sold it
was hoping for 370 min out of my sti, but tbh the small diff. in power compared to the cost doesnt justify it, so need to do it all or nothing i think.
So my plan is to keep as it is (VF35, 550 inj etc) get it mapped as it is, then look arround for 650 inj, + bigger turbo & fmic, and then nxt yr get fitted and remapped.... if i can then get somewhere near 380 i will be a happy chap
If im in no rush to buy the bits then i wont pay top £ for them....
Thanks for all the replies both, at least i have made up my mind which way to go
yes i have got a 2002 Sti bug, my last car was a 2001 wrx bug.... with all the sti bits on it... Spent - AND lost a fortune when i sold it
was hoping for 370 min out of my sti, but tbh the small diff. in power compared to the cost doesnt justify it, so need to do it all or nothing i think.
So my plan is to keep as it is (VF35, 550 inj etc) get it mapped as it is, then look arround for 650 inj, + bigger turbo & fmic, and then nxt yr get fitted and remapped.... if i can then get somewhere near 380 i will be a happy chap
If im in no rush to buy the bits then i wont pay top £ for them....
Thanks for all the replies both, at least i have made up my mind which way to go
29 July 2011, 04:59 PM
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doing the same myslef mate. If your pushing past 370 I was advised to get 650cc injectors (second hand about £200+/-), im keeping my top mount for now as my journeys are short and i rarely drive continously hard im not planning on going on track this year so its not much of a concern but as jura says its probably safer to go front mount. If you can find one, an MD321h is probably the best bet but mega hard to find so i settled on a harvey td05 20g. And one last thing get a 3 port boost solenoid also headers are probably a good idea if your after the magic 400.
also headers are probably a good idea if your after the magic 400.
29 July 2011, 05:03 PM
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arghhh my heads spinning now
yes i have got a 2002 Sti bug, my last car was a 2001 wrx bug.... with all the sti bits on it... Spent - AND lost a fortune when i sold it
was hoping for 370 min out of my sti, but tbh the small diff. in power compared to the cost doesnt justify it, so need to do it all or nothing i think.
So my plan is to keep as it is (VF35, 550 inj etc) get it mapped as it is, then look arround for 650 inj, + bigger turbo & fmic, and then nxt yr get fitted and remapped.... if i can then get somewhere near 380 i will be a happy chap
If im in no rush to buy the bits then i wont pay top £ for them....
Thanks for all the replies both, at least i have made up my mind which way to go
yes i have got a 2002 Sti bug, my last car was a 2001 wrx bug.... with all the sti bits on it... Spent - AND lost a fortune when i sold it
was hoping for 370 min out of my sti, but tbh the small diff. in power compared to the cost doesnt justify it, so need to do it all or nothing i think.
So my plan is to keep as it is (VF35, 550 inj etc) get it mapped as it is, then look arround for 650 inj, + bigger turbo & fmic, and then nxt yr get fitted and remapped.... if i can then get somewhere near 380 i will be a happy chap
If im in no rush to buy the bits then i wont pay top £ for them....
Thanks for all the replies both, at least i have made up my mind which way to go
I'm currently trying to modified my WRX,its not cheap....
Best is looking at eBay or here for sale section for bargains and if its cash allow buy it.
380bhp will be still enough at end and hopefully everything will be good at end
.As i said,best is enjoy what you have and get this properly mapped,contact here mappers for mapping and hopefully you will find best deal on mappingGood luck matey
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29 July 2011, 05:06 PM
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It had only covered 500 miles and i had to collect it so it cost 600 but considering they are 900 new i was happy with that. I origanlly wanted an MD321h and with supporting mods on a newage sti ive been told 400bhp is easy on them but they are so hard to find and your talking 700+ for a second hand one. All in by the time ive finished i recon its going to cost me £1800 to clear 380bhp but i may make things a little easier by going methanol 
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arghhh my heads spinning now
yes i have got a 2002 Sti bug, my last car was a 2001 wrx bug.... with all the sti bits on it... Spent - AND lost a fortune when i sold it
was hoping for 370 min out of my sti, but tbh the small diff. in power compared to the cost doesnt justify it, so need to do it all or nothing i think.
So my plan is to keep as it is (VF35, 550 inj etc) get it mapped as it is, then look arround for 650 inj, + bigger turbo & fmic, and then nxt yr get fitted and remapped.... if i can then get somewhere near 380 i will be a happy chap
If im in no rush to buy the bits then i wont pay top £ for them....
Thanks for all the replies both, at least i have made up my mind which way to go
yes i have got a 2002 Sti bug, my last car was a 2001 wrx bug.... with all the sti bits on it... Spent - AND lost a fortune when i sold it
was hoping for 370 min out of my sti, but tbh the small diff. in power compared to the cost doesnt justify it, so need to do it all or nothing i think.
So my plan is to keep as it is (VF35, 550 inj etc) get it mapped as it is, then look arround for 650 inj, + bigger turbo & fmic, and then nxt yr get fitted and remapped.... if i can then get somewhere near 380 i will be a happy chap
If im in no rush to buy the bits then i wont pay top £ for them....
Thanks for all the replies both, at least i have made up my mind which way to go
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its just a shame i couldnt have sorted it out nxt week, cos my missis is in spain, so she wouldnt have any idea that ive had it done....
She knows its going in while she is away, but she thinks its having a service, not a new engine and map [snigger]
29 July 2011, 05:55 PM
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cheers m8, but mark @ Thwaites is doing it this time as he is putting the engine in as well.... plus he did such a fantastic job on my last wrx i want to use him again
its just a shame i couldnt have sorted it out nxt week, cos my missis is in spain, so she wouldnt have any idea that ive had it done....
She knows its going in while she is away, but she thinks its having a service, not a new engine and map [snigger]
its just a shame i couldnt have sorted it out nxt week, cos my missis is in spain, so she wouldnt have any idea that ive had it done....
She knows its going in while she is away, but she thinks its having a service, not a new engine and map [snigger]
shame ive already got plans for that money 
