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Old 19 July 2011, 06:46 PM
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Default What BHP can the standard Turbo 2000 turbo and injectors handle?

Basically i'm looking for modifications that will not require me to change the injectors and turbo.

Other than:

Full decat, front mount, SIMTEK ECU, silicone hoses, a better recirc valve if there is...

What else can i change?

I'm hoping for 300BHP if possible?

Thanks

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Not sure which turbo you have,if you have TD04 i don't think you will see 300bhp with this turbo,injectors not sure if you have allready 380cc or 440cc,if you have 380cc with FPR you will again unlikely see 300bhp,with 440cc you will make 300bhp,but again everything depends which turbo you will have.


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Old 19 July 2011, 07:09 PM
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What's FPR?

Does anyone know what injectors and Turbo a UK Turbo 2000 comes with?

Thanks

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Old 19 July 2011, 07:14 PM
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td04 mate only the earlier wrxs came with td05
Old 19 July 2011, 07:15 PM
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what year is the car sam??
Old 19 July 2011, 07:17 PM
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What's the difference between the TD04 and 05?

It's a 2000 (W) with the phase 2 classic engine.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Saalro
What's the difference between the TD04 and 05?

It's a 2000 (W) with the phase 2 classic engine.

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Sam
TD04 is maxed around 270-280bhp with good setup(EngineTunner has made from TD04 something above 300bhp),with TD05 you will made around 320-330bhp(some will do 340bhp)

I'm afraid you will need bigger turbo which will make safe 300bhp.


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Old 19 July 2011, 07:21 PM
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hi injectors will be 440 cc,the tdo4 is smaller and less efficent ,however will spool quicker 2700 rpm
the td05 16g, td05 can be fitted if a front entry conversion is fitted to them Sam
fpr stands for fuel pressure regulator
mines a wreg uk too
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What did the 380cc injectors come on?

Is it the turbo can't pull in enough air to take it to a higher BHP?

What cars came with the TD04 and what came with the TD05?

What's the 16g mean?

Sorry for the questions, all helps appreciated!

Thanks

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Old 19 July 2011, 07:28 PM
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i have a bundel for sale that might interest u mate with pretty much everything u need to hit 400 bhp might spit if u wanted the 550s and turbo
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uk versions td04L 1996-
wrx versions /td05h side entry -1992-96??
i think wrx 99/00 were vf28 turbo
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Ah right.

Thanks man but not looking into that type of power just yet, looking what power i can get from my standard turbo and injectors.

Thanks

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expect about 260/270 ish with a ecutek remap,
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Don't bother with Simtek either when yours can be ecutek'd
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Does the standard ECU have a limit? I was looking at it as more of a future investment so when i go big i have a decent ECU.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Saalro
Does the standard ECU have a limit? I was looking at it as more of a future investment so when i go big i have a decent ECU.

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Sam
On classic have limits and you will get rid f the MAF,which is very fragile on classic.

SimTek is good ECU,but if budget allow Syvecs ECU can be better choice,but SimTek is good step.



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Originally Posted by Saalro
Does the standard ECU have a limit? I was looking at it as more of a future investment so when i go big i have a decent ECU.

Thanks
Sam
Keep what you have until you need it. Technology changes all the time and Simtek will soon be superseded by the next 'big' thing

MAF's are fragile if abused, although you can use other manufacturer mafs which are more robust .
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you will have 440s in your classic

these will max out at 330bhp

and i have seen a td04 make 280bhp rare but does happen

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Watch i'll get 280! Lol

So are these TD05 20g custom or something?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Saalro
Watch i'll get 280! Lol

So are these TD05 20g custom or something?

Thanks
Sam
Hi Sam

I would go for used VF34 or VF35 and Harvey headers with Harvey Up pipe and you have nice combo which will make around 330-350bhp.
STi pink injectors will set you back from £120-£160.


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get your 440s flow rated and matched by lateral

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Man i wish i knew what all this meant haha.

So my car has a TD04 ??g
Other Impreza's have VF or TD05 16g yet there are 20g (Custom?)

I've got 440cc injectors, that could be flow rated and matched.
There are 380CC injectors that come on?

FPR i have no idea what they are/do?

Anyone want to fill in the gaps! Lol

Thanks, i am learning though.

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Originally Posted by Saalro
Man i wish i knew what all this meant haha.

So my car has a TD04 ??g
Other Impreza's have VF or TD05 16g yet there are 20g (Custom?)

I've got 440cc injectors, that could be flow rated and matched.
There are 380CC injectors that come on?

FPR i have no idea what they are/do?

Anyone want to fill in the gaps! Lol

Thanks, i am learning though.
Sam

your car will have a TD04 Turbo

Injectors on your My00 car will be 440s which can be flow rated

http://lateralperformance.co.uk/prod...flow_matching_

FPR is:

http://www.howstuffinmycarworks.com/...regulator.html
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and ur gearbox will last little longer at that power lol trust me lol :P
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Originally Posted by Martin 2010
and ur gearbox will last little longer at that power lol trust me lol :P
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Lol, what's all this 20g ****e? Haha

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Saalro
Lol, what's all this 20g ****e? Haha

Thanks
Sam
google is your friend mate. there's loads on the net about the various mitsubishi TD series turbo.
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**** GOOGLE! lol

Yeah i'll have a look, thanks for the help everyone.

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Originally Posted by Saalro
**** GOOGLE! lol

Yeah i'll have a look, thanks for the help everyone.

Sam
Here is showed on photos






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Originally Posted by Saalro
Basically i'm looking for modifications that will not require me to change the injectors and turbo.

Other than:

Full decat, front mount, SIMTEK ECU, silicone hoses, a better recirc valve if there is...

What else can i change?

I'm hoping for 300BHP if possible?

Thanks
Sam
There is no point just fitting bits you have read of on here and elswhere and hoping you get x bhp. Your modifications have to be joined up and complimentary so that your car is efficient and gives the best output for the money spent.
With the proper mods and proper mapping your car will be capable of around 280 plus bhp run on V-Power or Tesco Momentum 99. The TD04 turbo is only capable of around this figure and at this level you do not need an FMIC but you will if you go to a bigger turbo.(I sell efficient FMICs and would not advise against an FMIC at this level, 280 bhp, if it was necessary)
Your injectors on standard fuel pressure will match out 320-335 bhp or thereabouts.

1) Walbro 255 lph fuel pump for Classic. (£75 posted)
2) An efficient turbo back exhaust system fully decatted with open neck down pipe. I would prefer a 3" system but a 2.5" system will be ok to 400 bhp. Not all systems are efficient so choice is important. Very loud systems do not normally produce best power. I use Revolutions own exhaust (but not down pipe) or Cobra/Exhausts UK.
3) Ported headers and matched uppipe.
4) You are now ready for an Ecutek remap and on a good car done properly you can expect 280-285 bhp. We had one previously at 296 bhp on that package.


Regardless of how far you are going, with the above you have done the groundwork.

There is nothing wrong with the O/E Subaru BOV and despite dishonest glossy advertising claims, a change of BOV will not add any power.
Silicon hoses will tart your engine up but add 0.00 bhp.

Other considerations.

Your car runs a Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF) On 99-00 cars these are particularly prone to failure and you should be alert to this. The ECUTEK system is very good and there are lots of cars well over 400 bhp running ECUTEK reliably. If you planned lots of future mods and a forged/steel engine and the thousands of pounds that would involve then it would be better to go with a Simtek or similar as that deletes the MAF Sensor but that expanse is not required at present. Ecutek with licence inc vat around £530 mapped. Simtel fitted and mapped circa £1150.

A three port boost solenoid, if your car does not have one will make your car more responsive. (£65)

A pannel air filter such as K+N will not add power but it can be cleaned every 3,000 miles or so as opposed to the standard Subaru item that needs throwing away 5,000-10,000 mile intervals. with the K+N you also get some induction roar if that is your thing.

Next steps.

Bigger turbo, bigger injectors and FMIC. Budget £1,000-£1100 ish.

IHTH.


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