AndyStiWagon

Hi all, I have a complete 1996 Import Turbo Estate with an absolute mint running engine, I am planning on putting the engine in to a proper mint shell which is an S reg 2.0 turbo UK car.

Are all the mounts the same?

Is it best to use the V5 loom that came with the car as it has the ECU which is mappable I believe?
Or to use the Import loom with the import engine?

I noticed some of the connectors were different hence the questions?

I'm planning on doing the swap this weekend so any help would be greatly appreiciated!!

Thanks Andy

T4YLOR 83

iTrader: (2)

I'm not 100% but I think it's a major major headache from what I researched 2 years ago when I did mine hence why I found a direct replacement

dabow

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the engine its self should be the same.
but you will need to change acouple of parts over.

inlet manifold/coil pack/water feed hose

TonyBurns

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Phase 1 replacement engine in a phase 2 car, hmmmm hassle isnt your middle name is it?
Engines are different, injectors, heads etc, your best going for another phase 2 engine if you want to save the hassle tbh, assuming that the car is an MY99 with the coil pack offset to the right when looking into the engine?

Tony

dabow

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whats the big deal then,
as long as the manifold is changed over, it should be fine.
to me its down to the ecu.

i have an early uk classic, but made an engine up.
thats runing perfect, i used sti v4 heads, sti v7 semi closed block.
the inlet is for a uk early classic. the only really issue was the crank sprocket. to which was standard fit through the range.

but theres no real issue.
+ an s plate was also phase 1.5it was the 99 that was slightly differnt, but still quite easy to do

TonyBurns

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My Version 5 STI type R is an S plate, still a phase 2 engine though

If it were a phase 1.5 then I would say much easier, phase 2 and I would say more trouble, not sure of the difficulties with the gearbox either, still its a phase 2 engine and there are a fair few changes, plus there may also be some compression differences though not 100% on that.
If your stripping and building then as you went Dabow, easier to do, but not a direct swap unfortunately afaik

Tony

dabow

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the box if fine.
i have a p1 box fitted, before this engine, i fitted the ty754 to my early classic block.

ye, i see your point regards fitting a phase 1/1.5 inlet to a phase 2 heads.
but can be done. lots on here have done the change.
the box with fit to that block, its only the inlet manifold. every thing else should fit fine.

AndyStiWagon

So will the early engine not fit?

The heads bigger or something? Can i not splice my connectors into the v5 loom?

Or can i not run my loom or ecu on the car?

please help?

Starting first thing in morning!!!

dabow

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some of the sponcers may be able to advice you alittle more.
the inlet will have differnt conections. thus the loom/ecu
changingthe inlet will solve this, but if the engine is a phase 2 as pointed out aboth, the phase 1/1.5 wont fit.thats the only problem with being a strait fit.

there are ways, known by alot of the sponcer ect

AndyStiWagon

would a version 7 inlet manifold fit then?

Its a late S on a 99 if any help?

AndyStiWagon

ot would this inlet fit?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IMPREZA-WRX-ST...item58890a36c9

dabow

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its not really thye inlet fitting mate. you can just get a phase 2, or what inlet is already on. its the wiring mate.

you may be able to splice the cables and refit to the sensors on the fitted inlet.

again, im out my league with do that right, but some on here or thesponcers ect, will be able to advise you better

AndyStiWagon

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Version-7-Suba...item3364935a45

or this one fit?

AndyStiWagon

Its a Version 5, so i'd need a Version 5 inlet to bolt on to my existing engine?
Riiiiiiiiiight!!! Makes sense now lol!!

Any other parts?

NOTE: BREAKING 1996 WAGON IMPREZA PM FOR DETAILS ALL PARTS AVAILBLE EXCEPT ENGINE, GEARBOX, DIFF.

dabow

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yes mate, all the engines from 92/98 (phase 1/1.5 have the same fitting inlet manifolds. after this it changed, and you'll need a phase 2 inlet as the fitment is very slightly differnt.

the blocks are all interchangable, and the heads are kind of. but the inlet manifold isnt. know im not 100% sure all the sensors/conectors are the same. if they was you could just conect all the loom perfect, but i do know you should be able to splice the boom to fit.

you will need to get the wiring differences off persons in the now

again, the block wont be an issue neather with the box.
again, i fitted an sti v7 bottom end with sti v4 heads (phase 1.5 ect)

so had no issues with fitting all my other phase 1 parts.
just needed mapping at the end

AndyStiWagon

So do i need to change the heads? Is this for the later manifold?

dabow

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yes mate. if you was to change for the inlet you have. it will fit right in no issues mate.