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Old 08 January 2011, 09:09 PM
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well I took my blobeye off the road end of november because my tax ran out and i didnt really want to drive it in the snow (not my daily drive) well i kept starting the car about twice a week which was fine and then when we had all that snow i went out to the garage 1 day started her up and noticed steam from the from, had a quick look and thought well it might be because of the cold weather, well once all the snow had gone i started her up and pulled her out the garage and yup steam from the front, well i took my grill of and basically the radiator is wet above the horns on the right side (passenger side) i took it out for a short spin and left it running for a while but the area would not dry up but there is no water dripping on the floor, but in the garage there is water where the front of the car is. So basically its not pissing out, I can't see any water spraying out either so does that mean somehow when we had the freezing weather my rad has cracked/split?

Can anyone recommend where to start to diagnose this?
Many thanks is advance
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Old 08 January 2011, 09:12 PM
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i had this exact problem and i sorry to tell you that its my headgasket that has gone, it put to much pressure on the rad which made it leak. i need a new rad, gasket, water pump, timing belt kit and it aint cheap i really hope this isnt the case for you as i have been quoted today over £1000
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Originally Posted by rumsey
i had this exact problem and i sorry to tell you that its my headgasket that has gone, it put to much pressure on the rad which made it leak. i need a new rad, gasket, water pump, timing belt kit and it aint cheap i really hope this isnt the case for you as i have been quoted today over £1000

hell no!!!!!!
I hope its not that as it was fine and only started after the freezing weather....
Old 08 January 2011, 09:19 PM
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mine has just gone over a freezing winter, i first thought it was my top hose so had that done, then i took it in for a new rad last wed but the garage rang me and said no point doing the rad as the gasket is gone so need it all doing. they couldnt even do it either so they could of taken my money and run but they were good enough to tell me before they did it.
Old 08 January 2011, 11:47 PM
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Don't panic mate, it's more likely to just be the radiator - they are prone to going.

Did the car ever overheat?

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Old 09 January 2011, 12:00 AM
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start the car from cold and watch round the top off the rad,where the plastic meets the metal theres a seal there thats fails with age,check it all round both sides.

fill the rad and plastic tank when cold to mark and keep eye how much it loses.

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Old 09 January 2011, 12:09 AM
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Rumsey - i'd get a second opinion before getting the head gasket done.

Lot's of garages seem to mis-diagnose leaks as head gasket problems.

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Old 09 January 2011, 12:21 AM
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Had exactly the same on mine and hear about it all the time.

Where the plastic shroud on the top clips to the radiator, you get a leak (usually on the right side as well).

Replace the radiator first; cheap, DIY, and likely to solve it (as long as it hasn't over heated)..

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Originally Posted by bengo
Had exactly the same on mine and hear about it all the time.

Where the plastic shroud on the top clips to the radiator, you get a leak (usually on the right side as well).

Replace the radiator first; cheap, DIY, and likely to solve it (as long as it hasn't over heated)..

Ben
every winter you see these posts.i had exactly same but only noticed in -0 conditions
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Rumsey - i'd get a second opinion before getting the head gasket done.

Lot's of garages seem to mis-diagnose leaks as head gasket problems.
yh i am gonna, is it best to get it pressure tested or how else can you tell?
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Pressure test is normally the best way, but also check for 'mayo' in the oil/water
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Originally Posted by bengo
Don't panic mate, it's more likely to just be the radiator - they are prone to going.

Did the car ever overheat?

Ben

no it didn't and still doesn't overheat, the fans come on as they should. The only problem i've got is my garage aint heated and as its still cold out there there's water over the rad and towards the bottom.
I also posted up a thread as to why we have 2 caps to fill the water from? Am i suppose to fill from the 1 by the intercooler or the 1 on the rad? as i've been told the pastic bottle to the right is the overflow bottle?
Is this correct?
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Pressure test is normally the best way, but also check for 'mayo' in the oil/water
No mayo in water/oil, as said before car was perfectly fine-> parked into the garage -> fine -> started it twice a week -> fine -> then mega cold weather -> not fine
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my car hasnt over heated and there is no mayo in the water either, there is alot of smoke from the exhaust and makes a weird cranking noise when the engine tries to start, just cant see that all coming from needing a new rad
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Originally Posted by rumsey
my car hasnt over heated and there is no mayo in the water either, there is alot of smoke from the exhaust and makes a weird cranking noise when the engine tries to start, just cant see that all coming from needing a new rad
that defo dont sound right rumsey, have you taken it to a specialist? I'm going to give zak a call from MOCOM see if he can have a look over mine. as well as getting some other bits done
Old 11 January 2011, 11:12 PM
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ok guys I had another look this evening and where the radiator is on the top there was a sponge, i pulled this out and then saw there was a gap, basically looks like 2 rads. So the rad towards the front looks like its linked to the Air conditioning?
I have attached pics (mobile poor quality sorry) you can see in 1 of the pictures the wet area to the right and the left side dry.
Is this the a/c rad? And if so why is it leaking water and not gas?
Your help is much appreciated

Old 11 January 2011, 11:21 PM
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I cant really see alot in the pics tbh. Best thing to do is start the car up and let it idle for at least 15 minutes whilst watching it to see where the water is leaking from.

Check the hoses these are prone to going, the bottom one is hard to see so just stick your hand in to see if its wet.
Old 11 January 2011, 11:42 PM
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was it cold? pics are kind of shaky hard to make anything out in detail
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I seem to have exactly the same issue as you on my blob eye. I've not had any steam but I do have a very slow leak on the passenger side.

I just looked today after getting home from work and saw some rapidly drying residue on the top of the rad where the plastic meets the 'toothed' shaped metal bit.

I've not had any overheating problems either so hopefully its just the rad, taking it to TFS racing for a look on Friday. Keep us updated!

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I have the very same symptoms on my bug eye. I've just pushed the button on a new rad.
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is for this reason i think alot of people go for the aluminuim race radiators not just for the extra cooling etc but they are better made/quality these plastic ones are not great
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Originally Posted by wrx fifer
was it cold? pics are kind of shaky hard to make anything out in detail
Yea it was cold, i'l post some better pics up soon. But am i right in sayin that the radiator is behind some a/c type radiator? As it looks likes theres 2? The front 1 is quite thin...
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Originally Posted by mauricegb
I seem to have exactly the same issue as you on my blob eye. I've not had any steam but I do have a very slow leak on the passenger side.

I just looked today after getting home from work and saw some rapidly drying residue on the top of the rad where the plastic meets the 'toothed' shaped metal bit.

I've not had any overheating problems either so hopefully its just the rad, taking it to TFS racing for a look on Friday. Keep us updated!

Maurice
Hi mate yea sounds jus like mine, although when i looked last nite it looks like i've got 2 radiators? So hoping some1 can clarify this for me.....
Old 12 January 2011, 11:57 PM
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ok well i spoke with Zak from MOCOM and he said is the a/c rad by the sounds of it, shes booked in to see zak nextweek, i'll let you guys know how i got on.
thanks to everyone that replied
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Originally Posted by mauricegb
Not good news for me. The coolant pipes were pretty stiff so a sniff test was done. There was a yellow tinge - head gasket

I only bought it 14 days ago from a trader so I'm going to take it back to get sorted. Although I don't hold out much hope of a speedy resolution - when I rang them up today the bloke started off by claiming if 'another mechanic touches the car, the warranty is null and void', and claiming he knew more about the regulations when I disagreed. Bugger.
sorry to hear that mate, not once to hear that news and only having owned your car 14 days ago.
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