p34nut

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hello people,

i know what anti-lag is but im not greatly sure on how to run it or get it sorted. i know it aint great for the turbo but its something im still interested in.

am i right in thinking it involves swapping ecu's to a compatable one with launch control and anti-lag?

whats involved in getting it set up?

anyone have any ideas on money needed?

BTW ive got a bug eye

thanks in advance
JAMIE

Terminator X

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Doesn't do a lot tbh apart from make a lot of noise! Works well on rally cars though You might be OK with current ECU as you have a bugeye albeit let's wait for the proper experts to arrive

New ECU will be £900-1500 ish depending on spec. Few hundred more to map it.

TX.

bigsinky

why are you still interested in it? your not sure how to run it? its bad for the turbocharger and its going to cost you up to £1500 dependant on your current ecu. if subaru had thought anti lag would be beneficial on their cars they would have put it on from the factory. your turbo is so small i doubt anti lag would any difference at all to you.

it amazes me how people hear things in the pub or with their mates and think that it will actally benefit their car when in fact it will more that likely hinder it or make it run crap. if you had a massive turbo like a GT40 and running big power, then yes anti lag may help. again it depends on the mapper and the versatility of the ecu. no offense here but i see it as more of a case of monkey see monkey do im afraid

Jolly Green Monster

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Most people want it for the noise, and it is a great noise.

It will give a response improvement on gear changes on certain setups.

Not heard of any damage to turbo from prolonged use except with proper rally car als with no brake servo etc

Just need an after market ecu installed to run it

Simon

jura11

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Hi Jamie on New Age ECU(from Bugeye upwards)you can have Anti Lag without swapping the ECU,let you must found mapper(open source mapper like Neil@Slowboy Racing,Rich@FB Tuning or Duncan@Race Dynamix) which use RomRaider(with new definition and Group N image/ROM,some guys in US tried and working well),probably worth ask Simon@JGM which is EcuTek dealer,and ask him about new RaceROM and AntiLag feature on new release of RaceROM or go for Simtek,Solaris/Syvecs(Simtek is cheapest,but many complaining about bad idle etc.).
Here is interesting thread about this
https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...-worth-it.html


And here is video of open source setup(RomRaider) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL47-m5Q8oc

eggy790

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the standard ecu can get anti lag style effects howeever aftermarket ecu will get you the proper scary gun shots

bigarf

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i have only really used my anti lag once since having it setup,and i wont be using it again in a hurry.it blew the slip joints on the headers apart.i suppose its ok if all you want is a few pops and bangs through the town centre,but i wouldnt advise using it properly for a prolonged time.

Jolly Green Monster

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I would say either poor headers or not setup right

Yes headers suffer a little but shouldnt do that

53

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JGM Antilag FTW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScyGkFZwBKs

bigarf

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rcm headers.just out of interest,is there any kind of time limit you can have anti lag switched on for when giving it some beens.or doesnt it matter.the reason i ask is when the headers blew apart it was on for around 15 mins of hard driving.

coops78

Wont forget that drive for a while mate

bigarf

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me neither.

p34nut

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i was told to come and speak to you by a few people actually.

exactly that, mainly for the noise but with the idea of punching through the gears on short sprints and giving me abit of an edge.

any idea's on ball parks figures, i know alot would depend on the ecu chosen but ive heard the EcuTek ecu has a pretty heafty licence fee before you even start to play with it?

thanks in advance

p34nut

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everyone has their own veiws on whats good and whats not.

i happen to like it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppv3EMGlITY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTAPpsL2xOU

jura11

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EcuTek licence can be applied only on Subaru,Mitsubishi,Nissan ECU and EcuTek is not possible applied on aftermarket ECU like is Simtek,Solaris/Syvecs and others and ball park figure just for remap from 550-650£,due this source cheap aftermarket ECU like is Simtek,Gems,Autronics and custom remap will cost around from 250-350£ and extra 150£ for ALS

f4la k

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You wont be able to run a proper antilag with a jacked open throttle on a rd car unless you go to a bit of expense. Its nearly impossible to drive a car on the rd with proper antilag..

Antilag on the simtek is a code thats purchased and put in the ecu, more for show than go.

You will probably stick with the oe ecu as its capable for you, but you will notice very little diffrence, as i said more for show...

Grant74

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My 2p's worth as have looked into this, as hillclimb my car.

It will reduce lag, although by how much depends on setup, and on standardish impreza turbo setups, I think its still worth it, as they are still too laggy for my liking.

Shouldnt blow your headers, but my friend did set fire to the welds on his downpipe on his rally car using very heavy anti lag, so its possible!

I also understand you need STI heads, as you could lose a valve on a WRX one. Something about underbucket shims for the valves etc, but Im out of my depth past that!

You are likely to lose your brakes to an extent, as engine wont produce much of a vacum, and the brakes need a vacum to get the brake booster to work. There are work arounds, but not cheap ones as I understand it.

Hope that helps.

Terminator X

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That can't do the car much good can it?!

TX.

Jolly Green Monster

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explosions of the fuel is at the back box.. should do no harm obviously prolonged use could cause heat to build up

Jolly Green Monster

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watch the EGT gauge.. there is about 30degrees difference between him revving weithout als and with..

Simon

sonic93

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iv always been told only use it very little as it can damage turbo and valves mayb that just my model 1993 wrx

JP4

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So I take it you went for the bugeye you called me about Jamie? If so, congrats!


Jag

harvey

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I have experience of several cars with damage to turbos and splits to headers from regular and prolonged use of anti-lag. On a Simtek, I think it is a £150 option. That is a lot to pay for pops and bangs. Nice to have but unless you are into competition it is probably irrelevant for "normal" road driving.

jh1

Sounds like drive by shooting loll. Performance gain or street cred in mc donalds car park? I like the over run on Lewis Hamiltons F1car.

Jolly Green Monster

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Not aware of any I have setup doing that, of course I nay not have been told but would expect to hear if that were the case

Simon

harvey

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I think a lot depends on how much use is made of it. I have a vf34 and vf 28 here, both of which are atributed to antilag. You will find that with prolonged use of A/L the stainless steel material in headers becomes brittle and eventually cracks. I doubt there is any damage of sinifigance from gear shift or overrun pops and bangs but launch control is where the damage occurs and I guess it will reduce the life of turbos simply because of the heat involved.

Jolly Green Monster

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Launch control can be very harsh yes, but then I get 1.2bar boost on launch so would expect it to be

Simon

Terminator X

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Why is LC so bad for internals Harvey?

TX.

Jolly Green Monster

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Heat due to ignition retard and fuel burning in headers

Set mine up as clean as I can, no pops but you can imagine the heat build up in headers, turbo, cylinders and valves whilst doing this :

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/3f4f65aa.mp4

Simon

Myles

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCCit...eature=related

Or that!!