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Old 20 June 2010, 07:01 AM
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Default Panel filter or induction kit

proberbly been covered to death but thought id ask
ive got a K+N induction kit on my 07 plate Hawkeye, sounds ok cant really feel a world of difference, my mate is going to buy either a K+N panel filter or kit the same as mine and has asked my advice
so thought id throw it up in the air to see any opinions
thanks guys
Old 20 June 2010, 07:41 AM
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i asked the same question fella have a look

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...ne-filter.html
Old 20 June 2010, 08:35 AM
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panel filter such as Green, Corworth or K&N will do the job perfectly.

Only run an induction kit if you plan to get it remapped within a day or two as they can be very fussy with them. No significant benefit in doing the induction kit route though and in a lot of cases it will cost you power.
Old 20 June 2010, 02:35 PM
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Cheers matey Ill sell him my induction kit and buy a K+N
Old 20 June 2010, 02:59 PM
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Get a Do-Luck panel filter mate. Jap performance has just tested a load of panel filters on one car, Do luck was 12,9bhp more than standard and better than all the rest ie K&N, ITG, Cosworth, Pipercross and Green. Only £35.
Old 20 June 2010, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobydudey
Cheers matey Ill sell him my induction kit and buy a K+N
Thought you said he was a mate?

Originally Posted by fastboyslim
Get a Do-Luck panel filter mate. Jap performance has just tested a load of panel filters on one car, Do luck was 12,9bhp more than standard and better than all the rest ie K&N, ITG, Cosworth, Pipercross and Green. Only £35.
I would love to see the test methodology in fine detail, as the idea of a filter being able to generate that sort of power differential on its own doesn't integrate that well with reality.

Did the test include pressure measurement on either side of the filter to measure drop, or any other method of explaining why there was an increase in power? Was filtration efficiency tested in any way?

I would strongly suspect that there is another random factor responsible for the difference in power figures that the test didn't evaluate (or equalise) - for example a change in ambient temperatures. Or was there a large advert for the manufacturer/distributor of the "winning" filter on the page facing the test?

Incidentally, anyone using an ITG (or similar) mucus-loaded synthetic foam filter in a MAF car deserves all the trouble they're likely to get. Thought that lesson had been learned long ago. Is this Do Luck filter a dry one or fluid-loaded btw?

Whatever this test may claim, my own recommendation if you want to change the filter would be a K&N or Green panel - both of which have been around for years and are proven to do a good job without causing problems. I haven't seen a Cosworth filter yet but people I trust recommend them. As Duncan has said, there's no advantage or need for an induction kit on a car with less than 350-odd horsepower, and putting one on will in most cases cause more problems than it solves, especially if the car isn't more or less immediately remapped.

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Old 20 June 2010, 04:24 PM
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splitpin,
The Do-luck pannel filter is oil filled
Old 20 June 2010, 04:26 PM
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Thanks Ginola. Well, on that basis, having heard elsewhere that it is a synthetic foam construction, can only reiterate what I said earlier re. personal recommendations.
Old 20 June 2010, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
...Or was there a large advert for the manufacturer/distributor of the "winning" filter on the page facing the test?...
lol indeed there was!
Old 21 June 2010, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
lol indeed there was!
Hmmmm, quelle surprise.
Old 21 June 2010, 09:53 AM
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LOL at splitpin and joz.
Old 21 June 2010, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
LOL at splitpin and joz.
Beneath the joke lies a serious point about the legitimacy of the "test".
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