idle problems
#1
idle problems
Hi,
I have just purchased a W reg Impreza 2000. It starts/runs fine but at idle there is a slight fluctuation, it varies between 100and 500rpm when both cold and hot.
Its done 80k with FSSH, is it worth me replacing the MAF as i have read these can go wrong? anything else i should be checking?
I have just purchased a W reg Impreza 2000. It starts/runs fine but at idle there is a slight fluctuation, it varies between 100and 500rpm when both cold and hot.
Its done 80k with FSSH, is it worth me replacing the MAF as i have read these can go wrong? anything else i should be checking?
#2
Welcome. First thing to do might be to link up with someone closer to you just to make absolutely certain that the fluctuation you're experiencing is "abnormal".
Second point is to ask whether you're sure you're reading the revcounter correctly. The first mark is at 500rpm, not 0, so the idle speed is probably a little higher than you're thinking at the moment.
Mass airflow sensor would be an obvious candidate for precautionary replacement - although before doing so you could have a look and see if there's a date code marked with white ink on the mounting flange.
While you're there, is an induction kit fitted? If so, and especially if the car hasn't been mapped to suit, your best option would be to chuck it and fit a standard airbox and induction tract - ideally with a good aftermarket panel filter.
Finally, before going any further, look up "black plugs" here or on Scoobypedia. You'll learn how to put the ECU into read memory mode - which will display any stored fault codes via the check engine light. If you get any, let us know.
If you do replace the MAF (part no 22794AA010, about £100 from your Subaru dealer), make sure you reset the ECU afterwards - the procedure for doing so will probably be covered in the same place the read memory mode is documented.
Second point is to ask whether you're sure you're reading the revcounter correctly. The first mark is at 500rpm, not 0, so the idle speed is probably a little higher than you're thinking at the moment.
Mass airflow sensor would be an obvious candidate for precautionary replacement - although before doing so you could have a look and see if there's a date code marked with white ink on the mounting flange.
While you're there, is an induction kit fitted? If so, and especially if the car hasn't been mapped to suit, your best option would be to chuck it and fit a standard airbox and induction tract - ideally with a good aftermarket panel filter.
Finally, before going any further, look up "black plugs" here or on Scoobypedia. You'll learn how to put the ECU into read memory mode - which will display any stored fault codes via the check engine light. If you get any, let us know.
If you do replace the MAF (part no 22794AA010, about £100 from your Subaru dealer), make sure you reset the ECU afterwards - the procedure for doing so will probably be covered in the same place the read memory mode is documented.
#3
Hi, thanks for the reply.
The car is running standard airbox and filter. I meant the revs fluctuate between 100rpm and 500rpm from the normal idle position, sometimes it goes up to 1000rpm then back to 800rpm etc. the revs dont hang on gear change.
Ok i will have a look and do a few tests saturday, ill post my findings up.
It's just the MAF horror stories scare me!!!
The car is running standard airbox and filter. I meant the revs fluctuate between 100rpm and 500rpm from the normal idle position, sometimes it goes up to 1000rpm then back to 800rpm etc. the revs dont hang on gear change.
Ok i will have a look and do a few tests saturday, ill post my findings up.
It's just the MAF horror stories scare me!!!
#4
Right i have had a full service and new camblet fitted, no fault codes found and it drives fine but its still got a slight idle fluctuation. The garage had a look and cleaned some vacuum pipes and it was ok for a while
It idles at 1500rpm when cold and slowly drops down to the normal idle as it heats up but then sometimes the idle increases by upto 200rpm and then falls back to normal. It doesnt stall or go above 1000rpm at idle and there is no hesitation when accelerating.
ICV has been cleaned so now im stuck, any ideas?
It idles at 1500rpm when cold and slowly drops down to the normal idle as it heats up but then sometimes the idle increases by upto 200rpm and then falls back to normal. It doesnt stall or go above 1000rpm at idle and there is no hesitation when accelerating.
ICV has been cleaned so now im stuck, any ideas?
#6
oops sorry,just noticed u did do a check,my maf was knackered but it didnt show on the ecu check,i still say maf or plugs.if u do fit a new maf make sure u reset ecu after fitting it.new maf is good for piece of mind anyway.
#7
Thanks, plugs have been changed as part of the major service. Looks like a new MAF is next on the list to try then, i can get one tomorrow in the meantime will it be ok to drive (obviously not booting it)?
If new MAF doesnt fix it what should i be checking next, how do i check knock sensor?
sorry for all the questions, im an impreza newbie!
If new MAF doesnt fix it what should i be checking next, how do i check knock sensor?
sorry for all the questions, im an impreza newbie!
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#8
Thanks, plugs have been changed as part of the major service. Looks like a new MAF is next on the list to try then, i can get one tomorrow in the meantime will it be ok to drive (obviously not booting it)?
If new MAF doesnt fix it what should i be checking next, how do i check knock sensor?
sorry for all the questions, im an impreza newbie!
If new MAF doesnt fix it what should i be checking next, how do i check knock sensor?
sorry for all the questions, im an impreza newbie!
#10
Right MAF has been changed and ECU reset. It runs and pulls very well but there is occassionally still a slight dip in the revs at idle nothing more than 100-200rpm and its only for a second before rising to normal idle. I was told today this is normal for the boxer engines is this true? am i worrying about nothing?!
#11
Right MAF has been changed and ECU reset. It runs and pulls very well but there is occassionally still a slight dip in the revs at idle nothing more than 100-200rpm and its only for a second before rising to normal idle. I was told today this is normal for the boxer engines is this true? am i worrying about nothing?!
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