dabow

iTrader: (19)

sold a z4 on e-bay, it worked when i sold it
i tryed it out

the guy tryed it in his car, with no joy & another impreza to the same outcome.

how is this posable?
i've said to the guy, if he sends it back, i'll try it out & if it is damaged i'll refund him.

but how do you damage an ecu...
i'll check it out to see if its the right one, got a clear pic to where all the labes are just incase.

got a mate of midland scoobs whos is letting me try it on his scoob
what should i look for when i get it back

scoobiewrx555

You know....it may well have been damaged in transit. Could have been dropped, squashed, kicked about whatever. It's just a circuit board in a box and although they can withstand some shock and vibration they are not indestructible.

Also it might have shorted out if the person that plugged it in to their connector had something wrong with their car. You could have too much voltage going into it and end up frying the Microcontroller or EEPROM.

You'll just have to plug it in to yours or a mates to see what happens. If it worked when you sent it then it's been damaged on the way or when it got there. If it works in your car and a mates car then there may be something wrong with the buyers car.

It's just a process of elimination.

dabow

iTrader: (19)

yep, i guess so.
i did pack it quite well too

not calling the guy, but i'll check it over incase its been tampered with
if all is fine, plug it in another car, to see what happens.

he said, he tried it out on 2 cars
well, we'll see
thanks for your reply mate

JonnyFresh

If it worked before you sent it I'd tell him no refunds. More than likely he's knacked it up. It's very rare for a pcb to get damaged in the post especially in the case. Chances are it is an electrical fault on it rather than physical.

Dubzy

iTrader: (4)

Agreed. I once had a burnt out ecu in my cossie due to loose earthing strap on the engine. It melted a few conector plugs and fused wires together in the loom. If the buyer had an electical fault to start with and hasnt fully sorted the problem then he could of well plugged it in and caused the same damage to the new one. So if u checked it before u sent it out then i would say usual rules aply no returns.

scoobymad555

iTrader: (1)

+1 .... perhaps the buyer had already fried his original unit?

dynamix

iTrader: (3)

+1

my thoughts aswell

dabow

iTrader: (19)

this is what i first throught, so in the pm i sent. i said send it back, so i can match the board code. he hasn't replyed back as yet

but i checked the board also before it left
asone of the things he said: he tried it on his, it diden't work then put it in his dads & it dident, but his dads car had a z4 which did.

i'll give him the beifit of the dought, and see what happens when i get it back.

dabow

iTrader: (19)

well, i've just had an e-mail from the guy. i think he has tampered with it.after you read this what you just sent me:

Hi again i tried the ecu on my dads classic subaru impreza wrx import k reg and on my subaru impreza wrx wagon import n reg it didnt work on either car. I then tried my dads z4 ecu on my car and it worked perfectly, i will send it back to you after i have recieved a full refund and postage paid, i will give you 6 hours from now to refund my money, if no refund is made i will start a dispute in paypal. thanks shawn

i put again, if he sends it back, i'll check it out. try it on another car, if it dont work. then i'll refund in full.

Pavlo

You've been scammed by the sounds of it, sounds like he's trying to get a free replacement for his broken Z4 ECU.

wayner845

iTrader: (2)

If he starts a dispute i think paypal will make him send it back to you at his expense before you refund him so i would tell him to start the dispute.
This has happened to me in the past .
I know it doesnt really help if he's broken it .

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

Agree with Paul, trying to get a free replacement.

dynamix

iTrader: (3)

Happens quite a bit on ebay. Getting the serial number as you have will help identify it and prove either way.

my94wrx

iTrader: (4)

deffo trying it on, for a free replacement ecu, i would also forward the email he sent you to paypal, demanding a refund before sending it back, if he has done nothing wrong he has nothing to loose by sending it back first. also bear in mind he is probably reading this thread.

dabow

iTrader: (19)

sorted, contacted e-bay
he has to first send it back with a tracking refurence
& then i can see if the unit was tampered with.
if it was/was then he gets a big f u...
but if every thing is all good, but dont work.
he can gladly have a full refund. but with the aboth remark, hes tampered with the unit

dabow

iTrader: (19)

i have, but if its been changed for another z4/ then it can be hard, but i took a close pic of the top, showing the blue stickers position.

being a foil type. if taken off. you can tell a mile away

mickywrx

iTrader: (29)

It's whats inside the case that matters though.

scoobiewrx555

Look at long distance selling rules for the UK. Regardless of what eBay rules do or don't say you are still bound by consumer law in this country.

You have every right to ask for the item to be returned so it can be checked out. Equally you normally have 30 days in which to refund the buyer. The buyer damanding a refund within 6hrs is a joke and he's talking out of his ****. It sounds just like you're being scammed. If the ECU has been damaged by the seller as a result of him plugging it into a faulty loom and it's burnt out inside and you can prove that you owe him nothing and all you do is send his item back to him.

Go through the dispute process on eBay and that will help stall things for a bit while you investigate things. You have every right to ask for the ECU to be returned for inspection and eBay will say the same to him. If you have the actual serial number for that ECU and he sends back another you have him by the *****!!

scoobymad555

iTrader: (1)

just an extra thought - make sure you don't have any balance in your paypal account just incase the thieving little pr1ck does manage to pull a sly one past them - they can't refund if there's nothing there to take

dabow

iTrader: (19)

i will mate, if every thing is aboth board. he sends the ecu back & it is broke, i'll refund the guy right away

regards to damage, it should be easy to spot i hope.
i have a close pic of the top.

so touch wood, the codes on the board should match up
apart from the stickers onm the top, & the connection point.
is there anything on the board that says what the ecu is?

nick172sport

iTrader: (6)

whats his user name ive jst been scammed by someone called shawn bought a scoop never sent

dj219957

this is why i have never bothered with a z4 ecu off of ebay.
too many ebay messers these days!
its too easy for a ebay messer to swap the cases and send a non gen one which could then kill my engine. i just wont risk it.
im not for one moment saying youve sent a duff one, im just saying its easy to swap cases like he might be trying to do with you.

scoobiewrx555

You wouldn't need anything other than your original ECU if you went for an ESL 'Live' daughterboard and remap. that's the best solution.

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Sage musings from dj219957 there ^^^ Sensible advice for others.

Brun

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dabow

iTrader: (19)

i'll see what happens, after the message i sent the guy
he replyed saying he will send it back, so i'll wait & see.
as long as the ecu is intact, & not taken apart. i'll sort him out

i'll try it out on a mates car before refunding him
as my car is know kind of in bits ready for the sti v4 heads.
i wont name & shame him yet, as it just might be lajit....

id did work fine, the codes all matched up to.
it was a proper z4 ecu.
we'll see

JonnyFresh

I was just going to put the same!!
Seen that happen alot on ebay with paypal. They just open a dispute and demand refund.
Although i think they only refund if you never receive the item. So have your tracking number to hand for if he claims he never got it.

dabow

iTrader: (19)

i aways do mate, i never charged him postage, but demanded postage back for returning the item.

i'll check the board over when it comes back to
all this may seem a little drastic, but all this sort of thing happens day by day

i'm exspecting, either he has changed it for a damaged one. or he's desided he needs some cash, & is just saying it dont work.

but i did have funds in paypal, took it out last night.
never throught about it at the time
thanks guys

i'll post up what the out come is.
if this was a scam. he will be named & shamed beleave me
infact, there should be a sticky for names of scamers.

before i get ahead of my self.
see what happens

dabow

iTrader: (19)

right, name & shame time.

i recived the ecu back today, he's only gone & taken the j1 resister out???
like i wouldn't notice that, looky i took a pic of this. i've informed e-bay already too

the buyer is: shawn5253 (shawn standen from kent).

this guy has got full 100% feedback to
i left him good feedback as i at first i didn't have any issues...
anyways, does anyone know where i can get one of these little things from?

please pm me with details
i did electronics so know how to do these things
so, in the end, he was a scammer!!!

TimH

iTrader: (11)

Out of curiosity, what does the J1 resistor do? Why would the scammer need/want to take it out?

And if anyone can tell me the resistance and type (e.g. wire-ended or surface mount, tolerance, 0.25W or whatever) I can almost certainly bung one in the post for you