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Old 26 December 2009, 11:59 AM
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Default 2 bottom end rebuilds & New headgaskets !!!!!

Hi all just wondered if this is normal. Here we go, I had a bottom end rebuild on a 53plate wrx 225 bhp (no mods) Because the bottom end bearings went that was the 1st one.
The second 2nd one the bottom end went less than 1000mls on the new botton end build so I sent it back.
The 3rd one white smoke coming out of the exhaust from the time the engine was started so I sent it back. Turned out to be headgasket failure !!
4th one still smoking from exhaust with white smoke ?

Before the work was done I had no problem with smoke at all. What is going on ?

Any knowledge would be helpfull thanks
Old 26 December 2009, 12:10 PM
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The 1st and 2nd rebuild could just have been down to the starting procedure the 1st time it was started( back to the oil change can or works)
And you have sort of answered your question with the white smoke as you already know its water,
Has the place supplied and fitted these engines?
Old 26 December 2009, 12:20 PM
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It is an STI bottom end and donor parts from my engine. My friend who worked for subaru helped take out and fit engine.
Old 26 December 2009, 12:35 PM
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did you have your heads skimmed, as if head gaskets went first time they could be slightly untrue. then any other times they are used the problem would return.
Old 26 December 2009, 03:22 PM
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theres lots of reasons for the failed rebuilds:

did you check/change the oil pump?
was the crank replaced or re ground?
were new gaskets used every time?
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Did they use a new modine?
Old 26 December 2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dj219957
theres lots of reasons for the failed rebuilds:

did you check/change the oil pump?
was the crank replaced or re ground?
were new gaskets used every time?
Oil pump was new he said.
Cranck supposed to have been checked.
New head gaskets first and second time.

I am rely peed off coz I was toldt his would be sorted
Old 26 December 2009, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by carpboy
Did they use a new modine?
He did not put a new one on !!!
He forgot to put one on when the engine came back the 1st time oh and the air con bolts were not done up oh and the air con belt and alternator belt was put on the wrong way oh and the cam belt was not tensioned
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Is important to use a new modine if the bottom end went. If not the swalf will just go round the new block distroying it again.
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So I wasted my money on a cowboy
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Only guessing my friend but its an important thing to do as it collects swalf from a bottom end going .
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...sounds like you need a 'new' mechanic
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As above the modine is more than likely the bottom end failure problem, but how well was the rest of the engine cleaned before assembly? There are so many galleries in a subaru engine that need cleaning.
The modine is an oil cooler, but its internal design is such that it cannot be successfully cleaned,with any means .
The white smoke sounds like burnt oil either from: leaking past the piston rings into the combustion chamber or the turbo seals are shot.

Does the smoke smell like burnt oil or is it steam?

The cam belt was not tensioned?
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Originally Posted by fiestaboy
...sounds like you need a 'new' mechanic
Do you know of anyone? haha
Old 26 December 2009, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ian.b
He did not put a new one on !!!
He forgot to put one on when the engine came back the 1st time oh and the air con bolts were not done up oh and the air con belt and alternator belt was put on the wrong way oh and the cam belt was not tensioned
who was the engine builder,stevey wonder.
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Originally Posted by bigarf
who was the engine builder,stevey wonder.
Lol it would seem that way
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Originally Posted by fiestaboy
...sounds like you need a 'new' mechanic
Do you now anyone ?
Old 29 December 2009, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ian.b
Do you now anyone ?
what area are you in?
Old 29 December 2009, 01:12 PM
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Might help if you mentioned where on the planet you are Ian. Also, who is responsible for "building" these failed engines?
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Originally Posted by bigarf
what area are you in?
I am in Hampshire
Old 30 December 2009, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitpin
Might help if you mentioned where on the planet you are Ian. Also, who is responsible for "building" these failed engines?
Split pin give me a chance had to go to work. Ok in Hampshire and I dont want to say who it is
Old 30 December 2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ian.b
Do you now anyone ?
Subaru4You in Newbury - well worth the small drive up from Hampshire
Old 30 December 2009, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tim hardisty
Subaru4You in Newbury - well worth the small drive up from Hampshire
Thanks tim
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Originally Posted by ian.b
Do you now anyone ?
I'm based in High Wycombe, Bucks, and can help
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