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Old 25 September 2009, 10:39 PM
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Default Why oh why would you weld an uppipe to turbo instead of nuts?

I've just had my scooby sport up pipe leak fixed with a double thickness oe quality gasket from the states....that bit is good. I've noticed while checking that the other end, turbo side has weld blobs on the threads holding it in place - why would you do that? That will be a nightmare if I need to replace.
I know when this was done as that pipe hasn't been off since the turbo was fitted...
Old 26 September 2009, 04:19 PM
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I'm assuming the welds are ontop of the the nuts? Beats me to be honest as they're a bugger to get undone full stop let alone when they're welded.
Old 26 September 2009, 04:43 PM
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Maybe some idiot has tried to get them off and tried to heat them first thinking an arc welder can be used to heat things up
Old 26 September 2009, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by STI_Baly
I'm assuming the welds are ontop of the the nuts? Beats me to be honest as they're a bugger to get undone full stop let alone when they're welded.
No its worse, there's no nuts at all, can just see the threads and weld blobs...think I've been had big time but not sure who it was.... If I need to take up-pipe off, that means turbo off..nightmare.
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Originally Posted by swisstonihasher
No its worse, there's no nuts at all, can just see the threads and weld blobs...think I've been had big time but not sure who it was.... If I need to take up-pipe off, that means turbo off..nightmare.

post a picture up tony.
Old 26 September 2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by my94wrx
post a picture up tony.
Cant right now as would need get car on ramps and take off under tray etc, need do wiring tomorrow as MOT retake monday...

Trust me though, def just welds holding the 3 hole flange in place at top of up pipe, not impressed.
Old 26 September 2009, 05:36 PM
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Cant see how the gasket can be clamped up with welding them on, at least with bolts you can apply pressure evenly around the flange to seal it, sounds like a garage to avoid in the future, If it aint leaking though best to leave it and just do properly if ever it has to come off
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I presume you are looking at the underside of the uppipe / turbo and they have welded the studs into the upipe so that then the turbo sits on the studs and you do the nuts up on top.. ie. it is perfectly normal.. but difficult to be 100% from your explaination.

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Originally Posted by daz1968
Cant see how the gasket can be clamped up with welding them on, at least with bolts you can apply pressure evenly around the flange to seal it, sounds like a garage to avoid in the future, If it aint leaking though best to leave it and just do properly if ever it has to come off
I know, I've been thinking the only way to get that fitted without her leaking is to use bolts to tighten, then remove one at a time and weld - how else can you do this? I think I know where it happened, just cant prove it (and it's not turbo fitting shop). Had bottom gasket fitted not long back on up pipe and guy did welding at the same time and I was thinking why weld ? Should be okay though unless need change up-pipe (which was on the cards to visit this garage again, change up-pipe, but instead found double thick gasket instead from states which dealer fitted). I just dont get it...
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Ah, will check for nuts on top then Simon, great thinking, prob the case after all.
Old 27 September 2009, 12:22 AM
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hope so.. lol
Old 27 September 2009, 10:17 PM
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It's totally nuts, is all i'm going to say.
Old 28 September 2009, 02:03 AM
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Studs on the standard up-pipes are usually tack welded on the underside aren't they? Expect this one will be no different.
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