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Old 22 February 2009, 06:08 PM
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Default Injectors - quick question.

Are these correct for a ph2 rails in a 1999 uk turbo impreza?

Subaru Impreza Nismo 555cc Injectors on eBay, also Injection Fuel Systems, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 09-Mar-09 16:27:06 GMT)

They have confirmed direct drop in fit for a ph2, just want someone else opinion
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I'dconsult Mark at Lateral Performance first. He spplies original flow matched 550 STi 'pinks' for either 1-1.5 AND 2 rails, I believe.

Don't know what they cost, but can't see it being much more (if any!) than those ones.

Plus you KNOW they'll be perfect and within a few % of each other with respect to each one''s flow rate.
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mark cant match that price, iv mailed him before

plus these are matched if you read the description
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Well, if they are indeed PROPER NISMOs, then fine - go for it.

What about about an adustable FPR for about £150 odd? Can be adjusted to 3.5bar pressure which is about 17% odd more flow than the std 3bar one, to effectively 'turn' your 440s into circa 515cc ones? What's your bhp goal?

If it was me, I'd try to hold out for a 2nd hand set on here or eBay and send them off to Mark to be flow matched. Most cost-effective way I think...
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iv got a fuel lab 515 series FPR. flat 4 sell them at that price aswell, so it must be the going rate for nissan injectors.

350bhp+ goal, surly the 440s would be maxed at 320 no matter how much pressure was going through them?
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
...350bhp+ goal, surly the 440s would be maxed at 320 no matter how much pressure was going through them?
440s are prob at 100% trying to do over 320bhp yes.

No. That's the whole point of an FPR - upping the pressure means more fuel flows through the nozzle in any given amount of time. Or to put it another way, the extra volume of fuel forced through the same space, equals more pressure (remember how much harder a garden hose gets , when you open the tap right out for max water).

I'd say that "515cc" lol will be good for about 350bhp. So long as IDC isn't set above 98% to achieve it, then the 440s at 3.5bar (via the FPR) will be your most cost effective route

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i just wana know if theyre the correct onces that are fed correct for my rails
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
i just wana know if theyre the correct onces that are fed correct for my rails


Well, I'd say they WILL fit phase 2 rails out of the box... as OEM phase 2 inj. can fit 1/1.5 rails with the adaptor kit, but phase 1/1.5 designed injectors CANNOT fit phase 2 rails IIRC. So because he mentions that they'll fit ALL Classics rails, then the same must be true of these NISMO injectors' design too.

So at least you'll have it the 'right way round', if you see what I mean
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man talk about making a mountian from a mole hill

its a yes then joz
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
man talk about making a mountian from a mole hill

its a yes then joz
Christ, only trying to help

I've as much idea as you. I'm just trying to apply some logic based on what I know, in a bid to help (whilst it would appear you have not contacted the seller to ask him the obvious question ).
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:45:15 -0700From: <email address removed per policy>: <email address removed per policy>ubject: Re: wrighty338 has sent a question about item #140249024290, ending on 09-Mar-09 16:27:06 GMT - Subaru Impreza Nismo 555cc Injectors

Dear wrighty338

Hey John, Thanks for your mail. These are direct fit to the phase 2 rails. They need a fitting kit for phase 1 rails, however if you have phase 2 rails it will be a straight drop in.

Thanks again- j_a_m_performance

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So I was correct then (post # 8). - admittedly, 'in the end'

Why the 'doubt' in the first place, though - it appears his answer is perfectly knowledgable, succinct and on the level

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chill out joz, i only asked a QUICK question

internet=banter
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No worries.

I was only trying to think of other non-expensive routes for your goals - but hadn't realised that you had explored all other avenues lol.

Your're right, you asked a perfectly straight-fporwrd question, and I gave you far too long and unecessary answers - apologies.

Gonna make a brew...
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
mark cant match that price, iv mailed him before

plus these are matched if you read the description
With regard to Nismo injector flow matching. If the injectors have been tested/flow matched since leaving the factory, that's great, but I can assure you that they are not flow matched from the factory.

The injectors are phase two based, so will fit the rail, but the connectors are different, so you will either have to chop the back of the injector down, remove some lugs, and bend the pins, or locate the correct connector kit.

Yes we are more expensive at the moment, because we have recently purchased stock, and we include the connector kit.

People are going to find a big range of pricing on all parts that are paid for in either the Yen/USD/Euro, for some time, because of the massive swing of these currencies against the pound.

Those people with older stock will have it at a better exchange rate than the people who have bought more recently, and some web sites have yet to up date the pricing too.

And just to put pricing of this particular part into context, even well known Japanese based suppliers are quoting £445.00 a set, before you add duty, & VAT.

I'm sorry to say, that unless something major happens with the economy, to reverse the very weak £, parts manufactured in Japan, & the Far East, are only going to get more expensive.


So if you find someone with older stock, take advantage.


Mark.
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thanks for you input mark - your sites not up yet is it? so i cant see what you offer do you have anything similar?

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