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Old 04 January 2009, 04:40 PM
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Default Fancy putting a dump valve on my car - but!

I have an '05 STI blobeye and fancy putting a dump valve on it. I have heard that they make them run like a bag of nails. Is this true, has anyone got experience of this?

Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent one to get?

Many thanks

Jim
Old 04 January 2009, 04:42 PM
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I'm running the APS Dual Port on my 02 WRX it's really made little/no difference bar the noise on full boost
Old 04 January 2009, 04:47 PM
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if your gonna get one buy the turbosmart ie veeport or supersonic one springs are pretty stiff and you wont have no issues .
Old 04 January 2009, 04:50 PM
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Leave the standard one on there or if you INSIST on an aftermarket one for the barry boy whoosh then make sure its not a VTA one as they will cause the ecu to misread the maf and cause overfuelling making the car run like a bag of ****e
Old 04 January 2009, 04:53 PM
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Hi Jim,

If they open to atmosphere for the nice tish sound, you are effectively dumping air that the MAF has told the engine to expect, so sufficent fuel is added, but less air goes in = run rich. I thinbk the increase in fuel consumption is noticeable but others may disagree. If you get a GFB that can be set to recirculation no air is lost and in theory the valve is more precisely made and is adjustable so that the dump valve reduces the shock on the turbo and allows it to maintain speed so that lag is reduced during gear changes. In theory. The way I drive it is of dubious value so although I have bought a GFB BOV (Blow Off Valve) before, it was a waste of money IMHO. But the high end racer boys with many hundreds of HP may see the benefit. However, if you have teenage kids of the PS/ Fast 'n Furious generation, that tish is rather fun (in town where it can be heard) one of the lads down the road has one on his Golf TDi - now THAT's a wannabe ....
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Thanks for all the comments guys, i think i will leave it alone. If the only real benefits are going to be whooosh noise and bad MPG i think i can live without one.
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trust me its not as bad as it seems, i have tried loads in the the past 2 years from baileys which are s**t, to perrin fully recirc to my current turbosmart supersonic which dont go off till 5k up to that it flutters through the turbo

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Old 04 January 2009, 05:18 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...ump-valve.html

i have one of these and i dont have bad fuel consumption no tick over problems as on tickover the piston is shut hard
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Forge VTA with a hard spring, no running issues.

Although the JGM says they are ****.

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agree with the above as long as the spring is stiff no problems you either love em or hate em lol
Old 04 January 2009, 08:12 PM
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If you just want a D/V for the noise, a far cheaper option is to simply put a sign in the window of your car with the words "I AM A ****" written on it, you will get exactly the same looks from passers by but with the added satisfaction that it hasn't cost you anything!
Old 04 January 2009, 08:17 PM
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i have a 05 sti with a blitz dump valve nice whoosh and no running issues at all
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Thanks all for your advice, it would seem opinions are very varied. I have heard good things about the Turbosmart products so i think i will possibly look in to them. In the mean time i have taken you advice Scoobmeister and put some new graphics on. Cheers Jim

Old 04 January 2009, 09:37 PM
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I have a forge one that the previous owner put on, seems ok to me?!
Old 04 January 2009, 09:55 PM
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how hard is the spring in the standard forge dump valve? I was looking at harder springs today but wasnt sure how hard i would need if any.
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Jim,

Save your money and spend it elsewhere.

Been there done it, and now running the standard dump valve again.
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Cheers Mark. . . . . noted.

You going to the Porchester meet on the 12th. I keep meaning to come along to one, but they always fall on a bad day for me. Im going to the Ace cafe that night now to a PH meet instead.
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Yep I'll be going Jim

What's a PH meet ?
Old 05 January 2009, 12:33 PM
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Old 05 January 2009, 02:13 PM
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just run without a dump valve, stops the arguments. lol
Old 05 January 2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by thejimreaper
Thanks all for your advice, it would seem opinions are very varied. I have heard good things about the Turbosmart products so i think i will possibly look in to them. In the mean time i have taken you advice Scoobmeister and put some new graphics on. Cheers Jim

i like it. looks good.
Old 05 January 2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jd5217
just run without a dump valve, stops the arguments. lol
I think your probably right mate.
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Originally Posted by thejimreaper
I think your probably right mate.
Then replace the turbo when the compressor blades bend and snap unless you have a TD or Garret Hybrid of course.Never try removing completely with a VF turbo
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How will they know to look if they can't hear you coming past ?

LOL

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Incredibly whoosh-based VTAs are sooooo mid-90's. GT turbo/Uno Turbo owners eat your respective hearts out lol.
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Originally Posted by dunx
How will they know to look if they can't hear you coming past ?
The Scooby rumble will see to that!
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the noise is awesome and it will certainly make a diffrence and will sound gr8 especially goin throughthe rpm range
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Originally Posted by prwatts
...If they open to atmosphere for the nice tish sound, you are effectively dumping air that the MAF has told the engine to expect, so sufficent fuel is added, but less air goes in = run rich. I thinbk the increase in fuel consumption is noticeable but others may disagree...
Just to add... The extra fuel - for the reason sited above - only lasts for as long as the vta is open - which is prob only about a second or so (plus it's off throttle on the overrun, anyhow).

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Originally Posted by dunx
How will they know to look if they can't hear you coming past ?
turn on the anti-lag
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We have the whole Turbosmart range in stock so if you need any further advice or prices etc please feel free to email me at ellie@aet-turbos.co.uk or ring 01924 894171.

Cheers
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