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Old 13 November 2008, 06:41 PM
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I have a blobeye and thinking about power could anyone tell me the best place to start on a budget. Thanks
Old 13 November 2008, 07:58 PM
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Hi Richard, I would go exhaust+filter followed by a remap. Not really any budget options, keep an eye on the classifieds and you may be able to get a secondhand exhaust. If your going for all new then approx £400 for exhaust and filter. The remap will be around £650 but it is, in my opinion, the best option.
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IMO I would go for a whiteline handling kit (Anti-Roll Bars, Drop Links and Anti-Lift kit) and geometry adjustment. Worth more than a remap in my view, even though it is not a power enhancer.
Old 13 November 2008, 08:10 PM
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Hi Shaun, I would agree with you 100%. It was more power he asked for, however, as the phrase goes ' There's no power without control '
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Whatever mods you intend on doing, it will always start with a decent exhaust and filter. The rest will follow this. The rear ARB will make a huge difference mind!
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Thanks for advice, I have a ninja back box but thinking of the down pipe not weather to de-cat or just sports-cat could you shead some light please. oh and is it better for a panel filter or induction kit? and would i need to re-map after the downpipe and filter? I'm not a complete novice but whats an ARB? he he
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ARB is Anti Roll bar I changed the rear ARB on my STi and honestly didn't notice any difference and I am not a numpty when it comes to cars.

Power wise:- panel filter, as the original air box is the best there is up to 360+ hp.
Decat downpipe and up pipe if yours has one. That will make it breathe much better.

Then eventually, a Tek 3 remap, but in the meantime the panel filter and decat will be Ok on a UK car, on a UK map.

Handling wise: White line anti lift kit is a good place to start, then probably a full geometry set up with 2 camber bolts from Eibach to be able to set the camber properly. Then see how it feels - it is perfectly possible to go too far and have something great, when in fact good would have been sufficient. Especially so, if trying to stick within a budget

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The rear ARB made a big difference on my RA, but i do have a classic, which are not as good as the later cars for stiffness in standard trim.
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Thanks. i have been looking at a down pipe on ebay item number 270298891545 . But not sure weather the car will need remapping cos of the lambda sensors? It's a u.k car but do i still go for a de-cat or sports-cat?
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Originally Posted by richard1522
Thanks. i have been looking at a down pipe on ebay item number 270298891545 . But not sure weather the car will need remapping cos of the lambda sensors? It's a u.k car but do i still go for a de-cat or sports-cat?
That pipe won't fit a bug eye - you need a 2 piece one. £179.00 + VAT from me. Sport cat type £245.00 + VAT

If you are concerned about dolphins and trees then sports cat. if you want to go fast - decat.

Your choice. The orginal map will cope with the decat or in fact either choice.

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I have a blobeye so should fit yer? Just speaking to someone from scooby bits and he said don't change the pipe with out remap is that true?
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I have a blobeye so should fit yer? Just speaking to someone from scooby bits and he said don't change the pipe with out remap is that true?
Sorry I misread above. Even so, Blob eye is also 2 piece down pipe - only JDM cars have one piece. H & S do a one piece replacement pipe for yours - but it is dearer than the two piece I am offering.

It'll be fine on the original map. It WILL be a better car for a remap, but in this instance, it is not necessary to protect the engine, like you would need to do an a JDM car.

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Thanks for the info, you have prob saved my engine and ecu. ill take a look at your site. Do they have sensor sockets on your down pipe? Is a K N panel filter a good replacement or pipercross?
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if you want more power get these...

3" turbo back decat exhaust and up pipe, heat wrap your downpipe
cold air intake
upgraded tmic
exhaust manifold heat wrapped
ecutek remap

and you will have over 300+ bhp and 300+ ft/lb torque
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What about on a prodrive map on an 03 wrx could I fit an up-pipe and a ppp sportscat down pipe and be safe on the map until I get some more money together to go for a remap. I presume just either a resister mod or cel delete will stop the light after removal of the up pipe cat, If I go cel delete anyone know which one to delete as I have a tatrix cable and would feel better doing it this way.
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Originally Posted by uk300scoob
if you want more power get these...

3" turbo back decat exhaust and up pipe, heat wrap your downpipe
cold air intake
upgraded tmic
exhaust manifold heat wrapped
ecutek remap

and you will have over 300+ bhp and 300+ ft/lb torque
A 3 inch system is too big for a standard engine. Stick with 2.5 inch centre pipe and back box. Hayward & Scott or Scoobysport are the best for making power rather than noise.

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Originally Posted by richard1522
Thanks for the info, you have prob saved my engine and ecu. ill take a look at your site. Do they have sensor sockets on your down pipe? Is a K N panel filter a good replacement or pipercross?
K & N is good. Our web pages are way out of date. A new web site is not far away and will be much better than what you can see now. Call me for info.

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Originally Posted by daz1968
What about on a prodrive map on an 03 wrx could I fit an up-pipe and a ppp sportscat down pipe and be safe on the map until I get some more money together to go for a remap. I presume just either a resister mod or cel delete will stop the light after removal of the up pipe cat, If I go cel delete anyone know which one to delete as I have a tatrix cable and would feel better doing it this way.
03 blob eyes don't usually suffer from the oxy sensor problem that afflicted decatted bug eyes. In any case a resistor, or thyristor, or someones-sister soldered across the terminals makes the light go out anyway.

Your idea should still be OK as the map will cope with the upgrade. Like I said before it won't be perfect, but it won't be far enough off the beaten track to cause problem in the short term.

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Originally Posted by APIDavid
K & N is good. Our web pages are way out of date. A new web site is not far away and will be much better than what you can see now. Call me for info.

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What price for the filter?
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Originally Posted by richard1522
What price for the filter?
Ha Ha, caught me !, We don't sell K & N as they are more expensive than the Simota that we do use. Simota is £30.00 inc VAT and performs very well, maps well and is a washable one just like the K & N.

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Originally Posted by APIDavid
A 3 inch system is too big for a standard engine. Stick with 2.5 inch centre pipe and back box. Hayward & Scott or Scoobysport are the best for making power rather than noise.

David
Apologies to the OP but I have a quick question re the above..

Can you go too big then? I was told the less restriction the better...

Partly why I'm considering the outlay for the APS 3.5" system...
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thanks i've got your number i'll call you tomorrow to arrange payment
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Originally Posted by rossi_p
Apologies to the OP but I have a quick question re the above..

Can you go too big then? I was told the less restriction the better...

Partly why I'm considering the outlay for the APS 3.5" system...
You NEED a 3 inch system from 380 hp up - below that you will get a better [ more useable / driveable ] result from a 3 inch open throat decat that necks down to 2.5 inch at the mid point join and then a 2.5 inch system all the way through to the back box.

An amount of controlled back pressure is necessary to make it all work, until you get to big power, then as open as possible just to shift large amounts of air / gas.
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Originally Posted by APIDavid
You NEED a 3 inch system from 380 hp up - below that you will get a better [ more useable / driveable ] result from a 3 inch open throat decat that necks down to 2.5 inch at the mid point join and then a 2.5 inch system all the way through to the back box.

An amount of controlled back pressure is necessary to make it all work, until you get to big power, then as open as possible just to shift large amounts of air / gas.
Understood - Many thanks
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Another vote for a rear ARB, it's the best value mod on my car.

Drift-spec fun !

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