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Old 25 September 2008, 08:53 PM
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As above. Trying to get engine out for rebuild but cant seem to seperate from gearbox. I know the dowels can give great problems. Can anyone help me out?? Any advice on this would be great as i am stumped

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Old 25 September 2008, 09:16 PM
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have you removed the pin from the clutch fork ? if not it will not come apart.rob
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Have you removed the clutch fork rod under the large allen head bolt by the starter?
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Damn you!!! two replies in the same minute!
Old 25 September 2008, 09:27 PM
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No i havnt, this is the first time i have done this. Once removed then what?? Duncan
Old 25 September 2008, 09:30 PM
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Take the allen key cover off,it's quite large.Once off,wind a bolt into the rod inside and pull the rod out.This will release the fork,and the box should come off,simple!!
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Thanks matey, gonna give that another go right now will keep you posted. Thanks for now, Duncan
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removed pin no problem but is still solid. What can i do next?? It just wont budge
Old 25 September 2008, 10:24 PM
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Two bottom engine mounts,top brace,4 engine to gearbox bolts,clutch fork rod,electrics and hoses etc that should be it. Is it moving about just not breaking from the box?
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Sometimes you have no choice but to put a screwdriver in between the two to wedge them apart.

Make sure you've raised the gearbox slightly using a trolly jack and also make sure the bottom engine mounts are clear of the front crossmember.

What you don't want is either the engine or gearbox being stuck on the two bottom studs because they are not at the same height as each other.

Get this lot right and you should be able to knock a screwdriver down between the too and free them from the dowls.
Old 25 September 2008, 10:33 PM
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yeah its moving about but its like the box is welded to the engine. I can lift the engine but the box just wants to come with it. All the parts you mentioned are removed
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Sometimes you have no choice but to put a screwdriver in between the two to wedge them apart.

Make sure you've raised the gearbox slightly using a trolly jack and also make sure the bottom engine mounts are clear of the front crossmember.

What you don't want is either the engine or gearbox being stuck on the two bottom studs because they are not at the same height as each other.

Get this lot right and you should be able to knock a screwdriver down between the too and free them from the dowls.
tried all that mate but still no joy, been at it all night now and its starting to really try my patience. Just want it out now, cheers
Old 25 September 2008, 10:54 PM
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as daz said, you need to take the weight of the box off the engine, it sounds like the dowels are very tight! Is it coming apart a few mm?
Old 25 September 2008, 11:30 PM
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no movement atall its solid. Tried the jack under the box and the screwdriver between them. snapped one of my new teng screwdrivers too which just adds to the nightmare. Maybe the stihl saw is the answer
Old 25 September 2008, 11:49 PM
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Have you tryed putting a weight on the clutch disconecting it from the gear box? wilst useing a pri bar to seperate them
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make sure all of the bolts joining gearbox and engine are removed,its easy to miss one,u have removed starter motor havent you??
Old 26 September 2008, 01:31 AM
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Well guys thats it finally out. Those dowels were right buggers, they held on till the very end. Big bar 2 broken screwdrivers and alot of swearing but i got there in the end. Thankyou all for your tips and help once again here on scoobynet. Now to get the rebuild done and get it back in which i am sure will be another task. Thanks again, Duncan
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Remember to put some copper grease on the dowels when putting it back together
Old 26 September 2008, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Remember to put some copper grease on the dowels when putting it back together
will do for sure mate, not going to have that trouble again if it ever needs to come back out. I hope it never has to come back out as long as i have it
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Had to say thanks guys This is my first impreza just finished my rebuild at 11.30 last night and now up early on Sunday morning to hopefully get it back in, I was checking rs25 forum if anyone has come across it and they failed to mention this clutch arm and they work different on other cars so I struggled for a few hours untill I found you lot, thanks again live savers I'll be back if any problems going in, the only thing I'm worried about is remembering where all the wires and pipes etc go but I'm sure I'll get there!!!!!!
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