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Old 29 August 2008, 11:03 AM
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basically i have a 98 uk wagon which i think is the v4, but ive been told that the ecu's can't be re-mapped. ive also heard that you can fit earlier ecu's with just the change of a couple of wires?? is this correct if so which is the best ecu to get to be re-mapped???
Old 29 August 2008, 11:30 AM
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igot the same as you mate i think , 3 pin yellow plug ecu ? thats what i have and your right cant be mapped just replaced .
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Whats your budget www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk lists the most popular options and will travel or you can travel to him.

i see you're in bournemouth and these guys are at Hurn airport Triton Motor Services - The South's Leading Independent Subaru Specialists
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Whole heartedly recommend Jolly Green Monster, Simon is a top skin who really knows his onions.

A search will tell you all you need to know on both the above mentioned options!
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Originally Posted by scuuby
basically i have a 98 uk wagon which i think is the v4, but ive been told that the ecu's can't be re-mapped. ive also heard that you can fit earlier ecu's with just the change of a couple of wires?? is this correct if so which is the best ecu to get to be re-mapped???
you can't easily fit the earlier ecu, and it would be pointless exercise.

the only pin swapping is if a JDM spec ecu like and Apexi PowerFC is used on the uk but mapper sorts that

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Old 30 August 2008, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
you can't easily fit the earlier ecu, and it would be pointless exercise.

the only pin swapping is if a JDM spec ecu like and Apexi PowerFC is used on the uk but mapper sorts that

Simon
thanks for the advice lads.

so simon, if i was to locate say an apexi ecu would i still have to change some of the pin locations? and how much would the remap be??
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All on the webite www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk
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Originally Posted by scuuby
thanks for the advice lads.

so simon, if i was to locate say an apexi ecu would i still have to change some of the pin locations? and how much would the remap be??
tbh mate i would just get the package of jgm its a good price and its all brand new .
Old 31 August 2008, 06:40 PM
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We have a Simtek page on Alan Jeffery - Engine Tuner which lists the main features!
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who does the best price in the simtek you or jgm ?
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They all charge the same AFAIK. They are governed by Simtek themselves I think.
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ahhhhh i couldnt see a price on engintuners site maybe thats why .
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i thought the earlier ECU`s could be remapped nowadays using ESL or something?
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92-96 = ESL option.
97/8 seems to be the ***** one that struggles

The common theme seems to be that www.jollygreenmonster.co.uk has the answers, have you had a look at the site or called for a quote and some information? Simon wont bite, he's a very nice man

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Originally Posted by dazdavies
They all charge the same AFAIK. They are governed by Simtek themselves I think.
If this is the case, it amounts to blatant price fixing, which is illegal. Perhaps Simtek and their distributors should avail themselves of the law in this respect - before someone reports them to the office of fair trading....
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or perhaps you might untangle your knickers and accept that if you want a bloody good ecu then you have to pay the same price whomever you choose to use.
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Originally Posted by lunar tick
If this is the case, it amounts to blatant price fixing, which is illegal. Perhaps Simtek and their distributors should avail themselves of the law in this respect - before someone reports them to the office of fair trading....
a new ecu fully fitted and mapped for under a grand and you still find away to moan about it !!! do you just wake up every day and wonder what you can moan about .
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Not moaning about it, especially as I have absolutely no intention to buy one. My skillfully mapped OEM ECU delivers the goods (and 420bhp) and I'm extremely happy with it. Merely pointing out that IF the price is fixed by agreement, this is illegal and the parties involved could be open to prosecution...

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Old 01 September 2008, 09:10 PM
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but could it be simtek that fixes the rrp to stop people being ripped off ?
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its called a RECOMMENDED retail price..
Old 01 September 2008, 10:58 PM
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We charge £995 inc vat fitted, and mapped using our own Dyno Dynamics dyno and on the road, as recommended by the designers of the system.
No big secret!
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sorted that one then as jgm is a hundred quid cheaper .abviously no price fixing there .
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Fella it is £895 + vat on Simon's site, so pricing does vary.

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is simon vat registered then is he ? thought it was a side line asaposed to a main business.
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Shhh... the tax man might be looking!
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lol sorry im not implying that but i didnt relise it was a propper busines as such just though he knew his stuff and done it from home sort of thing .
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Alan,
Are you trying to imply something?
Limited company, vat registered and my sole income not that part time is an issue as most of the top mappers are or have been. This takes up my time 24/7 pretty much.
You keep up all the talk
Lol
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Originally Posted by M535I
lol sorry im not implying that but i didnt relise it was a propper busines as such just though he knew his stuff and done it from home sort of thing .
Most of my mapping is mobile or for traders and I rent workshop space local when needed, along with 3 rolling roads I use when necessary.
I only map I dont build engines other than my own so have no need for fulltime premises as such. I could fit parts, open a service centre etc but my interest is in mapping so I leave the rest to the traders and do their mapping of which are currently 6 or of course for individuals
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hope i didnt offend simon , you have mapped my mates car and ill be using you just got a whole host of stuff to get done firts
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Originally Posted by M535I
hope i didnt offend simon , you have mapped my mates car and ill be using you just got a whole host of stuff to get done firts
No not offended just something I feel passionate about.
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