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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Hi,
can anyone show me the difference between a equal length tubed header and a non-equal lenght tubed headers.
i know it sounds obvious but there are so many adverts out there and they all look the same?
there does not seem to be much difference in them.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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when you say show you the difference are you looking for pictures of each type or are you asking for technical information on what the performance differences are?
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Equal length usually destroy the flat four rumble , makes it sound awfull
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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not true, ive got an equal length on mine, ok it does take away the burble, but mine is a uk spec which made 290 bhp with an equal manifold, 3 inch straight through with de cat, blitz induction kit and vf28 turbo! running 12 psi so there are advantages to it
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Looking for a pic really.
i so don't want to lose the burble, best part of car lol
i've seen one for sale but it doesnt look like its equal but is advertised as one.
i take it you can get un-equal length tubular manifolds??????????
cheers
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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i take it you can get un-equal length tubular manifolds??????????
Yes, you can. If you are looking for any less than about 340 bhp, then you dont need a tubular manifold at all. Get the standard headers ported and add a matching up-pipe and this will suffice.

If you really want tubular, then make you sure you go 3 bolt flange like gruppe s. It gives a much better seal that is less likely to leak than the 2 bolt flange earlier designs.

Having said that, my 2 bolt HKS headers are still fine with 2 gaskets in place to up-pipe.

The un-equal tubular give a rumble early on until about 3,000 rpm, but then all hell breaks loose and a noise many compare to a super bike happens up to the red line
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Hers's a pic of the one i seen.
is this equal???? they say it is.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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nope deffo not equal. this is equal length

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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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I think GT spec now do a set of equal lengths...

I'll be getting a set soon, i love the sound of equal lengths
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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They're definitely not equal.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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good.
i thought they did'nt look very equal in lenght.
love the burble noise....................
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Equal length headers make a big difference to the higher RPM performance of the car, but work best with supporting mods like up/down pipes, full porting/polishing of headers, turbo and exhaust system to improve gas flow all round.

Sound is as described above, screams like a superbike from 3000-8000 rpm. Pulls hard all the way too, doesn't run out of puff at high RPM like standard system and sustains high boost levels.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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[QUOTE=RA95;7071695]Equal length headers make a big difference to the higher RPM performance of the car, but work best with supporting mods like up/down pipes, full porting/polishing of headers, turbo and exhaust system to improve gas flow all round.
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Love to know how much porting you plan of the tubular headers.......

Simon
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i found these for sale in the states.

They certainly look good but are they any good?
it say's they fit these models;
02-05 Subaru Impreza WRX 2.0L Turbo H-4 (GDA,GGA chassis)
06-07 Subaru Impreza WRX 2.5L Turbo H-4 (GDA,GGA chassis)
04-07 Subaru Impreza STi 2.5L Turbo H-4 (GDB chassis)
05-07 Subaru Legacy GT 2.5L Turbo H-4
has anyone seen these befor and will they fit my classic 95?
hope you can help cheers
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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When Jap perfomrnace mag put similar on there Project Phoenix, its fair to say it wasn't a total success...

Plus sides - some extraction effect and better flow.
downsides - more lag due to a larger exhaust volume to fill pre turbo, it also appeared to come om boost at higher rpm which may be related to temperature losses.

Simon
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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my apologies I meant polishing/porting of heads, not headers.
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