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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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hi guys. i have a japanese spec 95 ej20g wrx w/ a td05h and i have a powerfc. i came across this issue, my car wont start up with the powerfc but will start right up with the stock ecu. i tried everything / checked all the sensors on the commander/datalogit, turned the boost control kit option off, i "re-initialize" the whole pfc settings(reset to factory settings) and still no luck. im pretty stuck. im getting tuned on tuesday and my car wont start w/ my standalone. anyways, id really appriciate it if you guys can chime in into some posible leads to solve or diagnose my problem.. thanks in advanced.. any advice would be great.





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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Why not drive to the tuner (mapper?) on the stock ecu and if they are an FC mapper the Apexi safe map can be installed to get it going.

There is a start-up map etc to get into the system etc.

I presume the FC is new? If not, are you sure it is a good one?
Alternative would be to try the real FC mappers for some advice, AndyF/Zen/API
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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yeah... im really not familiar with all these companies.. the pfc was used.. but it started up my car before.. maybe a start up map can help me out a bit.ill go to my tunner tomorow and see what he says.. im pretty stumped about this.. all i want is for it to fire up so i can finally get my car tuned.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Subaru move the pin outs for the cam / crank angle sensors. So you'll almost certainly find that they are in the wrong pin holes on the A'Pexi.

Don't ask me which, that is something that the tecchies here deal with and they know it by just doing it not thinking about it. I believe red wires and white wires are involved in the plot somewhere.

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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David that issue only relates to fitting a power fc to a UK car, this is a Japanese engine so it should start up as normal.

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Ta !
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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..and the 95 are the same both uk and jap.... only switch from 97 on.

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Ok ! Ok ! I know nothing, I know that, l'll get me coat.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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dave got me excited.. hehe.. man.. im try everything i could to make this work.. but im outa luck.. ive tried everything.. i dont get how the stock ecu would work just fine and not the powerfc.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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any more ideas? i have people having the same setup and they dont have issues. starts right up. i called apexi today and they told me its definately a fueling issue.. but i "reinitialized" the pfc. so basicly it should be on its "base map" then they told me the pfc base map are rich outa the box to prevent people from blowing cars up. so he said leaning this out a bit should eliminate the problem. any input on this? it kinda makes sense but.. what i dont get is why does most people dont have the same issue. my car has full voltage. sensor check ,checked out and works fine on the stock ecu . this is soo disappointing.. any info would be nice. need more options..=(
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are u getting a spark at any of the cylinders?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Base map should start it fine, they are only rich once on load. Are you getting a maf signal (monitor/airflow) on the hand commander when the ign is on ?
Has the ECU been locked, ie can you read the injector and airflow values in the settings menu (not monitor)
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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^^thanks.. ima go check it out.. all i remember is prior to startup.. on the sensor check screen.. IGN is encircled black.. but when u start cranking it.. IGN circle flickers.
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bump!! any other ideas?
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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ok.. today.. something i noticed too.. if you update the values prior to startup.. it will respond. but once you start cranking the motor up. it says " interface not responding" on the data log it. almost seems like a very bad voltage drop for it to lose enough voltage to not go on. ill try to check the main harness's power output. this sucks.
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bump! anyone?
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Either as has been suggested parts of the map is locked.. or perhaps the powerfc is faulty.

PM me your number and I'll ring you as I can talk you through checking if the map is locked and unlocking it and the log output etc.

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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hmm.. im in the US. i appriciate it.. but if its fualty.. i wonder if theres a place besides apexi who can fix pfc's
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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doh..

email me "Simon @ JollyGreenMonster.co.uk" and I'll jot down some things to check.

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Simon, you're slacking, a decent mapper would just get over there and sort it for him

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy.F
Simon, you're slacking, a decent mapper would just get over there and sort it for him

Andy
or would be too busy mapping in their own country!!!

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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You need to lose the day job then
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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...hehhe.. wish i was local to you guys! noone here has experience with powerfc's on subaru. =(
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Originally Posted by Jolly Green Monster
doh..

email me "Simon @ JollyGreenMonster.co.uk" and I'll jot down some things to check.

Simon
kk..ill email you.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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What state are you in ? (apart from dejected ) I have a customer in PA that is quite familiar with the PFC and FC Datalogit.

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Originally Posted by Andy.F
You need to lose the day job then
lose or jack in?

I did..

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Ah, I wondered where you found the time to make over 100 posts on here in the last 2 weeks !

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....except it has been delayed slightly..
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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im from IL, chicagoland area.
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