Samco's make a difference or not?
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Samco's make a difference or not?
My MY99 Uk Turbo is due in for a remap in about 2 weeks time. The spec will be:-
forged pistons
billet rods
green panel filter
3" downpipe/de-cat
2.5" ninja system
uprated fuel pump
uprated oil pump
ported and wrapped headers and uppipe
TD05 16g
I will still be using the stock TMIC though, due to lack of funds. Would adding a set of Samco turbo hoses help with anything or enable me to achieve more power/torque when I get it remapped??
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forged pistons
billet rods
green panel filter
3" downpipe/de-cat
2.5" ninja system
uprated fuel pump
uprated oil pump
ported and wrapped headers and uppipe
TD05 16g
I will still be using the stock TMIC though, due to lack of funds. Would adding a set of Samco turbo hoses help with anything or enable me to achieve more power/torque when I get it remapped??
Cheers
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I personally don't see them as perfomance enhancing in anyway.
They are made to look good, and be a lot more durable than standard rubber hoses that perish over time. They can hold a lot more pressure, but it will be well over any psi a turbo would produce.
If you have them crappy flexi hose things on your tmic, instead of an ally Y pipe, then I would imagine the samco's will flow better then them.
They are made to look good, and be a lot more durable than standard rubber hoses that perish over time. They can hold a lot more pressure, but it will be well over any psi a turbo would produce.
If you have them crappy flexi hose things on your tmic, instead of an ally Y pipe, then I would imagine the samco's will flow better then them.
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I have been informed by a number of people with extensive knowledge of Subaru engine's, that I should be able to run around 320bhp, safely using the stock TMIC unitl I can afford a FMIC.
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I personally don't see them as perfomance enhancing in anyway.
They are made to look good, and be a lot more durable than standard rubber hoses that perish over time. They can hold a lot more pressure, but it will be well over any psi a turbo would produce.
If you have them crappy flexi hose things on your tmic, instead of an ally Y pipe, then I would imagine the samco's will flow better then them.
They are made to look good, and be a lot more durable than standard rubber hoses that perish over time. They can hold a lot more pressure, but it will be well over any psi a turbo would produce.
If you have them crappy flexi hose things on your tmic, instead of an ally Y pipe, then I would imagine the samco's will flow better then them.
Cheers
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I wouldnt bother with FMIC if it's going to be a daily driver, a newage STi TMIC will work just fine, be easier to fit and save you a few quid.
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When I was round at Andy Forrest's a few weeks back we had the following conversation :
Andy Mc : Do Samco hoses improve performance or are they mainly bling ?
Andy F : Mainly bling.
A man of few words.
Andy Mc : Do Samco hoses improve performance or are they mainly bling ?
Andy F : Mainly bling.
A man of few words.
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Main benefit of the Samcos and the like is that they won't perish or split as easily, especially on a tuned motor.
Main drawback with the standard "2000 Turbo" TMIC may be the horrible plastic abortion that sits under the TMIC and splits the flow from the turbo outlet pipe into the TMIC. Flow gains can be had by switching that out for a Samco or similar.
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ISTR that the newage cars have better pipework.
Main drawback with the standard "2000 Turbo" TMIC may be the horrible plastic abortion that sits under the TMIC and splits the flow from the turbo outlet pipe into the TMIC. Flow gains can be had by switching that out for a Samco or similar.
See here - Browser Warning
ISTR that the newage cars have better pipework.
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Main benefit of the Samcos and the like is that they won't perish or split as easily, especially on a tuned motor.
Main drawback with the standard "2000 Turbo" TMIC may be the horrible plastic abortion that sits under the TMIC and splits the flow from the turbo outlet pipe into the TMIC. Flow gains can be had by switching that out for a Samco or similar.
See here - Browser Warning
ISTR that the newage cars have better pipework.
Main drawback with the standard "2000 Turbo" TMIC may be the horrible plastic abortion that sits under the TMIC and splits the flow from the turbo outlet pipe into the TMIC. Flow gains can be had by switching that out for a Samco or similar.
See here - Browser Warning
ISTR that the newage cars have better pipework.
My car has an 04 STi intercooler and Andy mentioned that the hoses that come with it are v good. Certainly, Samco's will last better than WRX or uk classic hoses.
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Main benefit of the Samcos and the like is that they won't perish or split as easily, especially on a tuned motor.
Main drawback with the standard "2000 Turbo" TMIC may be the horrible plastic abortion that sits under the TMIC and splits the flow from the turbo outlet pipe into the TMIC. Flow gains can be had by switching that out for a Samco or similar.
See here - Browser Warning
ISTR that the newage cars have better pipework.
Main drawback with the standard "2000 Turbo" TMIC may be the horrible plastic abortion that sits under the TMIC and splits the flow from the turbo outlet pipe into the TMIC. Flow gains can be had by switching that out for a Samco or similar.
See here - Browser Warning
ISTR that the newage cars have better pipework.
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You will be running more boost after the re-map, the PPP replace these as part of the upgrade on the MY99.
The hard black plastic pipes tend to split, you will need 3 pipes in all, the Y pipe under the intercooler, make sure it does not rub on the gear box stabiliser mount when fitted. Pipe from intercooler to the throttle body and pipe from the dump valve. Get good quality Samco pipes, they are more expensive than the e-bay ones, but will not let you down.
The topmount should be ok for anything under 300BHP but take advice from the mapper.
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Right, well with regard to power, the mapper im using think's I should be able to see 320bhp using the stock MY99 TMIC.
I am rather skint at the moment though, so, do I NEED to get the Samco's before the re-map?? Couldn't I just get it remapped, and then buy the Samco's next month and add them?? Or would I need to have the map tweaked further once the Samco's are added??
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I am rather skint at the moment though, so, do I NEED to get the Samco's before the re-map?? Couldn't I just get it remapped, and then buy the Samco's next month and add them?? Or would I need to have the map tweaked further once the Samco's are added??
Cheers
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Right, well with regard to power, the mapper im using think's I should be able to see 320bhp using the stock MY99 TMIC.
I am rather skint at the moment though, so, do I NEED to get the Samco's before the re-map?? Couldn't I just get it remapped, and then buy the Samco's next month and add them?? Or would I need to have the map tweaked further once the Samco's are added??
Cheers
I am rather skint at the moment though, so, do I NEED to get the Samco's before the re-map?? Couldn't I just get it remapped, and then buy the Samco's next month and add them?? Or would I need to have the map tweaked further once the Samco's are added??
Cheers
Best to do the whole lot next month - patience !!
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