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Old 09 April 2007, 10:41 PM
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Hi, i have a MY00 impreza uk spec that is standard. Im looking at getting it re mapped. what is the power gain that i will get out of getting it re mapped, and what sort of price is it?? Any recommendations of where is the best place to get it done in the essex area? Any help would be great
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hi mate, tbh i would first of get a de cat downpipe, and then full system and a good panel filter before getting a remap to see the real benefits, u should then be looking at around 270bhp with a good remap with a ecutek, dont know whos nearest u but try powerstation, bob rawle and andy f are the most respected mappers on here and i think they travel if u pay costs.
Old 09 April 2007, 10:51 PM
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oh and ur looking at around £580 all in.
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Originally Posted by reformed_raver
Hi, i have a MY00 impreza uk spec that is standard. Im looking at getting it re mapped. what is the power gain that i will get out of getting it re mapped, and what sort of price is it?? Any recommendations of where is the best place to get it done in the essex area? Any help would be great
You have pm
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Don't get hung up on headline power figures, its the way a remap makes the car feel to drive thats important. Get exhaust sorted first then don't hesitate.
Old 10 April 2007, 01:16 PM
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i see. So next question is going to be what de cat down pipes would you rekomend,where from and how much are they?
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I've got a Prodrive sports cat (ex PPP) with a Scoobyclinic middle and rear, works fine with remap, only wish I'd had it done sooner. Can't imagine there's much to choose between any decent sports cat or a decat pipe. Any specialist should be able to oblige. I use Scoobyclinic, prices on their website for exhaust bits except sports cat which are quite expensive, Prodrive one was £600 as part of PPP.
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Mr Raver........you have private message
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Im also looking for a re-map. I had one done by Scooby clinic on my last car but i dont really fancy paying so much. Are there any alternatives?

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Originally Posted by baser999
Mr Raver........you have private message
have i??? Does not of seam to got to me?? where did i go?? who knows??
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anyone got an answer for me?
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Try Zen Performance, speak to Paul Zen Performance - Performance upgrade solutions for Japanese cars
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Rich,

First time round you have to pay for the Tek3 license wherever you go. You're sorta stuck with that.
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tek3? take it that is a re map?
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Originally Posted by D1CCY
Rich,

First time round you have to pay for the Tek3 license wherever you go. You're sorta stuck with that.
Not if you go the OpenEcu route...

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TEK3 licence is a one off (per car) fee to use the software to remap, subsequent remaps (ie for exhaust or turbo changes) are only mapper's and RR time.

Marky, I don't understand about the OpenEcu route and couldn't find it on Mocom's website.
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Originally Posted by D1CCY
TEK3 licence is a one off (per car) fee to use the software to remap, subsequent remaps (ie for exhaust or turbo changes) are only mapper's and RR time.

Marky, I don't understand about the OpenEcu route and couldn't find it on Mocom's website.
Thats strange as it is on the front page of his web site....£450 Subaru remap....
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The front page revolves with different content (dooh).... linky above should help. Get an OpenPort cable and a laptop and you can look/edit/flash a map yourself (for free). It is a steep learning curve, hence why you should get a protune with someone like Mocom first (who uses the same software / cable, you are just paying for his mapping experience)
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Got it now, thanks. I'd think it likely that EcuTek might have some legal position on this?
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EcuTek have reverse engineered the ECU's the same as the OpenEcu community has. They do not have the monopoly on ECU tuning! If you look in the states there are many others (Cobb/AccessPort etc), not just EcuTek...

BTW you cannot view/edit/download an EcuTek map....this is why licensing is in place now, and the ECU becomes locked out (to anyone other than an EcuTek dealer). OpenEcu tuning can only be done on a virgin ECU or one that has been returned to virgin state....

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Thanks guys for the replies.
I looked at Mocom's re-mapping and it sounds good. Just wasnt sure if it was quite up to scratch as Ecuteks.
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Originally Posted by RICH S202
Thanks guys for the replies.
I looked at Mocom's re-mapping and it sounds good. Just wasnt sure if it was quite up to scratch as Ecuteks.
In the UK EcuTek has mopped up on the tuning front, and it is frowned upon to be mapped by anything other than EcuTek franchised dealers.....in the US it is the reverse....I think EcuTek trails both and Cobb/Accessport.....

https://www.scoobynet.com/dealer-thi...ll-praise.html

There are a lot of positive comments regarding Mocoms tuning capabilities. Once you look pass the mentality of paying for the experience and not the 'software' you cannot go wrong
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Originally Posted by Marky9074
In the UK EcuTek has mopped up on the tuning front, and it is frowned upon to be mapped by anything other than EcuTek franchised dealers.....in the US it is the reverse....I think EcuTek trails both and Cobb/Accessport.....

https://www.scoobynet.com/dealer-thi...ll-praise.html

There are a lot of positive comments regarding Mocoms tuning capabilities. Once you look pass the mentality of paying for the experience and not the 'software' you cannot go wrong
Marky
I think thats the response i was looking for so thanks mate. MOCOM it is then.

Rich
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Open ECU is for MY01 onwards only.
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Originally Posted by Marky9074
Once you look pass the mentality of paying for the experience and not the 'software' you cannot go wrong
What exactly does that mean ? If you are paying for experience in mapping then perhaps you should ask why the guys with the most tuning experience in the UK (by a country mile) use Ecutek.

Even these recent 'new to the scene' tuners use the excellent Ecutek Deltadash software to monitor the effects of their ECU tweeks and plot power estimated curves.

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Maybe you should broaden your horizons Andy

I used DeltaDash for logging and it's power curve function because, at the time, it was the only tool available. Of late it's bugs, one of which is it's tendancy to leave process' running when exiting the program have got the better of me.

The single tool suite I now use has the power curve function, let's me customize a dashboard to display the parameters that are most important to me and allows me to set audible and visual alarms to those parameters how and where I want them. I don't see this function within DeltaDash although I guess it's only a matter of time before EcuTek start to play catch up
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Combine this tool suite with ESL's excellent work and we've pretty much got the Subaru range covered............




.............bar MY99/00 ofcourse
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Originally Posted by Mocom Racing
Combine this tool suite with ESL's excellent work and we've pretty much got the Subaru range covered............




.............bar MY99/00 ofcourse
that's what PowerFC's are for

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Originally Posted by Marky9074
Once you look pass the mentality of paying for the experience and not the 'software' you cannot go wrong
Not sure what you mean mate. Surely the mapper's experience is paramount in the importance stakes; the software is only a tool, it's the expertise of the person using it that counts. That's not to say that the software isn't important; the mapper is constrained/empowered by it's capabilities!

The reputation of the mapper and their proven track record was the no. 1 factor is my decision about who to let map my car. Frankly, my mappers reputation was so good that if he'd have whipped out a BBC Micro with a copy of Pong to do the mapping I wouldn't have cared!


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