Phil

Jza

Been told by most that NO it won't invalidate your warrenty

As scoobysport supply Cheam you would thought not but

My dealer wasn't sure and was to get back to me 2 weeks ago

Don't thinks thats much help is it

Phil

[Edited by phil_stephens - 12/11/2001 4:31:54 PM]

Phil

Sorry Guys

What is this ?

What does it do ?

I recal from a visit to TSL,Paul trying to sell me one but not asking him what it did,I do remeber him saying get one fitted at your next service

Well 15k service next weekend

So can anybody help explain?

Phil
MY01 PPP WRX

[Edited by phil_stephens - 11/17/2001 11:24:10 PM]

PSI3

Hi Phil,
This should help..

http://www.scoobysport.co.uk/index.asp?page=exhausts

simon

Phil

Thanks Simon

Didn't think to look there

I am now well informed

Phil

simon_prickett

I have one, definately worth it, especially if you are doing exhaust mods (I have Magnex decat centre with resonator and Scoobysport back box).

Good dealers should clean them at service intervals too.

Simon.

Lunchie

A word of warning I asked my local dealer (those good ole boys at Cheam Motors) about the ITG panel filter. They no longer recommend them as the polymer in the filter may come off and damage the MAF sensor, which wouldn't be covered under warranty (£200+ bill). They state they've had about a 5% failure rate which isn't insignificant.

Anyone actually had any bad experiences?

Lunchie

GrahamF

Simon,
"Good dealers should clean them at service intervals too." Depends on what you mean by 'clean them', but ITG say their filters should only be wiped clean with a rag or stiff brush, and NOT solvent cleaned as it washes the polymer out.
Graham

Pete Croney

Lunchie

We supply Cheam and they have never informed us of a MAF failure. If there was one, it would not be through polymer contamination, it just can't happen with an ITG.

There have been MAF failures on cars using the standard paper filter. This is normally caused by excess crank oil/vapour venting into the intake pipework and is most common shortly after a service where too much engine oil has been installed.

We have sold/fitted many thousands of ITGs and it is the best filter on the market. For performance, filtration, lifespan and reliability.

Lunchie

Pete

Thanks for that. I am due to have my 45,000 mile service at Cheam next week and asked about having an ITG filter fitted, and what I quote before was there advice. Maybe it is more to do with IM and any warranty issue relating to the MAF sensor failures (?). My warranty runs out at the service so may be I should just have one fitted myself.

Funkii Munkii

I know this is an old thread but get one get one get one

I had one fitted when i got my SS back box back in may 2000 what a difference a lot more responsive and its still flying along, they state they are good for 40000 miles, done 38 k with it and cant notice any difference in performance, best £40 spent

Lunchie

Monsieur Munki

I am I am I am

I take my car to Cheam motors tomorrow for its 30K service and a cambelt change (that hurts the wallet just before Xmas!) and thought I might as well go for the ITG filter while I'm at it. I already have an SS backbox courtesy of the nice Mr Croney, so I will be interested to see if I notice any different.

Pete - after it is fitted will I need to check after a period of time to remove any of the excess polymer gloop that can collect?

SimonH

Yeah you will. The photo below was taken about 4 - 6 weeks after fitting the ITG.
And before you ask, yes I did clean off the excess gloop before fitting it

richbay

would a K and N panel filter leave the same type of residue as pictured above?

steve_s

where does this gunge come from the filter itself??

I was thinking of fitting one now I'm not so sure.

steve

Lunchie

Steve

From what I understand the gunge is what the filter is impregnated with. The filter has holes that are large than on a paper filter, but the air swirls around and the dust particles stick to the gunge. This allows for better filtering combined with better throughput of the air.

Since having mine fitted last week I feel a slight improvement midrange. Also get that joyous sucking noise (with the window down) under hard acceleration like good old twin Webers.

Lunchie

steve_s

I see.. thanks for that.
still a bit unsure as mines under warranty for a fair bit yet

steve

Jza

Is the ITG a "invalidate your warrenty" mod or not? (MY01 WRX).

Jza

Lunchie

As per my response I was warned that it does invalidate your warranty. As mine runs out today (Happy Third Birthday Mr Scoob - hold together now) it wasn't such an issue, other than I still don't want to pay out at all!

Life's a risk so what the hell!

Lunchie

Pete Croney

Simon

Looking at your picture, it may be that your filter was fitted incorrectly.

Your car looks like a MY 2000 UK model and the air box lid is retained at the lower end by two lugs. The only way you could have any polymer on the upper lip is if the filter foam was on the lip, as opposed to sitting down below it (where it should be).

If it was sitting on the lip, fitting the lid would have trapped the foam part and squeezing the polymer out. This would explain your mess.

As with any filter, it is essential it is fitted correctly and a correctly fitted ITG will never leak polymer like yours has.

SimonH

Cheers Pete, I'll have another look at it; as far as I remember the rubber edge to the filter panel doesn't actually fit inside the box but sits on top of the rim? I'm guessing as I can't actually remember - I'll have a look at the weekend (I hate opening the airbox though as it's a sod to get back together again!

PeterStone

iTrader: (1)

I too struggle when fitting the ITG.Should the foam/rubber edge be squeezed into the box or should it sit above.I assume it's the latter but that seems to block the two lugs that need to be engaged.Pete C?
TIA
Pete S

Pete Croney

The rubber surround of the filter should sit on the shelf in the air box.

When you re-fit the lid (its a lot easier with the intake pipe fully removed) squeeze the lid down at the end nearest the engine and slide it towards the wing. The lugs will engage and then you can snap the clips over.

steve_s

Did we ever find out.... warrenty ok or not with one of these??

steve

Lunchie

Steve as per my previous posts above - warranty is invalid with one fitted on affected parts...

steve_s

sorry to seem thick but there was lots of people saying different stuff..
thanx for clarification.

steve

Lunchie

No worries - mind you if you had a problem and put the standard filter back on could it be traced back...?

Andy Burrell

Hate to say this but my ITG did the same, about three tablespoons of gloop in the airbox and I binned it in the end. I did not fit it my self the boys at Scoobysport did it when my exhaust was done so it must have been fitted correctly. I have now had a K+N panel in and it has caused no mess at all. I have had K+N on all my cars and Bikes for the last 25 years and only went for the ITG on recommendation. Shame as everyone thinks they are good.

steve_s

I think they'd be able to tell if all that gunge was there

Sandman

Richbay,same as Andy I've run K & N 's for about 15 years an swear by them , I would be seriously worried about that amount of crap in the air box. Also the American Army use K & N s on there Apache attack helicopters to perform in all conditions....sorry I digress but seriously had no probs check their web site , far superior than other so called high flow /performance filters.

ga33a

Hi All,

I've run ITG filters in my last two scoobies. But I've never had a look for that gunge in the bottom of the filter box. It's got me a bit worried. I'm going to have a look at lunch time.

Fingers crossed

Gazza