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Jza
Been told by most that NO it won't invalidate your warrenty
As scoobysport supply Cheam you would thought not but
My dealer wasn't sure and was to get back to me 2 weeks ago
Don't thinks thats much help is it
Phil
[Edited by phil_stephens - 12/11/2001 4:31:54 PM]
Been told by most that NO it won't invalidate your warrenty
As scoobysport supply Cheam you would thought not but
My dealer wasn't sure and was to get back to me 2 weeks ago
Don't thinks thats much help is it
Phil
[Edited by phil_stephens - 12/11/2001 4:31:54 PM]
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Sorry Guys
What is this ?
What does it do ?
I recal from a visit to TSL,Paul trying to sell me one but not asking him what it did,I do remeber him saying get one fitted at your next service
Well 15k service next weekend
So can anybody help explain?
Phil
MY01 PPP WRX
[Edited by phil_stephens - 11/17/2001 11:24:10 PM]
What is this ?
What does it do ?
I recal from a visit to TSL,Paul trying to sell me one but not asking him what it did,I do remeber him saying get one fitted at your next service
Well 15k service next weekend
So can anybody help explain?
Phil
MY01 PPP WRX
[Edited by phil_stephens - 11/17/2001 11:24:10 PM]
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I have one, definately worth it, especially if you are doing exhaust mods (I have Magnex decat centre with resonator and Scoobysport back box).
Good dealers should clean them at service intervals too.
Simon.
Good dealers should clean them at service intervals too.
Simon.
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A word of warning I asked my local dealer (those good ole boys at Cheam Motors) about the ITG panel filter. They no longer recommend them as the polymer in the filter may come off and damage the MAF sensor, which wouldn't be covered under warranty (£200+ bill). They state they've had about a 5% failure rate which isn't insignificant.
Anyone actually had any bad experiences?
Lunchie
Anyone actually had any bad experiences?
Lunchie
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Simon,
"Good dealers should clean them at service intervals too." Depends on what you mean by 'clean them', but ITG say their filters should only be wiped clean with a rag or stiff brush, and NOT solvent cleaned as it washes the polymer out.
Graham
"Good dealers should clean them at service intervals too." Depends on what you mean by 'clean them', but ITG say their filters should only be wiped clean with a rag or stiff brush, and NOT solvent cleaned as it washes the polymer out.
Graham
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We supply Cheam and they have never informed us of a MAF failure. If there was one, it would not be through polymer contamination, it just can't happen with an ITG.
There have been MAF failures on cars using the standard paper filter. This is normally caused by excess crank oil/vapour venting into the intake pipework and is most common shortly after a service where too much engine oil has been installed.
We have sold/fitted many thousands of ITGs and it is the best filter on the market. For performance, filtration, lifespan and reliability.
We supply Cheam and they have never informed us of a MAF failure. If there was one, it would not be through polymer contamination, it just can't happen with an ITG.
There have been MAF failures on cars using the standard paper filter. This is normally caused by excess crank oil/vapour venting into the intake pipework and is most common shortly after a service where too much engine oil has been installed.
We have sold/fitted many thousands of ITGs and it is the best filter on the market. For performance, filtration, lifespan and reliability.
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Thanks for that. I am due to have my 45,000 mile service at Cheam next week and asked about having an ITG filter fitted, and what I quote before was there advice. Maybe it is more to do with IM and any warranty issue relating to the MAF sensor failures (?). My warranty runs out at the service so may be I should just have one fitted myself.
Thanks for that. I am due to have my 45,000 mile service at Cheam next week and asked about having an ITG filter fitted, and what I quote before was there advice. Maybe it is more to do with IM and any warranty issue relating to the MAF sensor failures (?). My warranty runs out at the service so may be I should just have one fitted myself.
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I know this is an old thread but get one get one get one
I had one fitted when i got my SS back box back in may 2000 what a difference a lot more responsive and its still flying along, they state they are good for 40000 miles, done 38 k with it and cant notice any difference in performance, best £40 spent
I had one fitted when i got my SS back box back in may 2000 what a difference a lot more responsive and its still flying along, they state they are good for 40000 miles, done 38 k with it and cant notice any difference in performance, best £40 spent
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I take my car to Cheam motors tomorrow for its 30K service and a cambelt change (that hurts the wallet just before Xmas!) and thought I might as well go for the ITG filter while I'm at it. I already have an SS backbox courtesy of the nice Mr Croney, so I will be interested to see if I notice any different.
Pete - after it is fitted will I need to check after a period of time to remove any of the excess polymer gloop that can collect?
I am I am I am
I take my car to Cheam motors tomorrow for its 30K service and a cambelt change (that hurts the wallet just before Xmas!) and thought I might as well go for the ITG filter while I'm at it. I already have an SS backbox courtesy of the nice Mr Croney, so I will be interested to see if I notice any different.
Pete - after it is fitted will I need to check after a period of time to remove any of the excess polymer gloop that can collect?
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Yeah you will. The photo below was taken about 4 - 6 weeks after fitting the ITG.
And before you ask, yes I did clean off the excess gloop before fitting it
And before you ask, yes I did clean off the excess gloop before fitting it
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Steve
From what I understand the gunge is what the filter is impregnated with. The filter has holes that are large than on a paper filter, but the air swirls around and the dust particles stick to the gunge. This allows for better filtering combined with better throughput of the air.
Since having mine fitted last week I feel a slight improvement midrange. Also get that joyous sucking noise (with the window down) under hard acceleration like good old twin Webers.
Lunchie
From what I understand the gunge is what the filter is impregnated with. The filter has holes that are large than on a paper filter, but the air swirls around and the dust particles stick to the gunge. This allows for better filtering combined with better throughput of the air.
Since having mine fitted last week I feel a slight improvement midrange. Also get that joyous sucking noise (with the window down) under hard acceleration like good old twin Webers.
Lunchie
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As per my response I was warned that it does invalidate your warranty. As mine runs out today (Happy Third Birthday Mr Scoob - hold together now) it wasn't such an issue, other than I still don't want to pay out at all!
Life's a risk so what the hell!
Lunchie
Life's a risk so what the hell!
Lunchie
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Simon
Looking at your picture, it may be that your filter was fitted incorrectly.
Your car looks like a MY 2000 UK model and the air box lid is retained at the lower end by two lugs. The only way you could have any polymer on the upper lip is if the filter foam was on the lip, as opposed to sitting down below it (where it should be).
If it was sitting on the lip, fitting the lid would have trapped the foam part and squeezing the polymer out. This would explain your mess.
As with any filter, it is essential it is fitted correctly and a correctly fitted ITG will never leak polymer like yours has.
Looking at your picture, it may be that your filter was fitted incorrectly.
Your car looks like a MY 2000 UK model and the air box lid is retained at the lower end by two lugs. The only way you could have any polymer on the upper lip is if the filter foam was on the lip, as opposed to sitting down below it (where it should be).
If it was sitting on the lip, fitting the lid would have trapped the foam part and squeezing the polymer out. This would explain your mess.
As with any filter, it is essential it is fitted correctly and a correctly fitted ITG will never leak polymer like yours has.
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Cheers Pete, I'll have another look at it; as far as I remember the rubber edge to the filter panel doesn't actually fit inside the box but sits on top of the rim? I'm guessing as I can't actually remember - I'll have a look at the weekend (I hate opening the airbox though as it's a sod to get back together again!
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I too struggle when fitting the ITG.Should the foam/rubber edge be squeezed into the box or should it sit above.I assume it's the latter but that seems to block the two lugs that need to be engaged.Pete C?
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The rubber surround of the filter should sit on the shelf in the air box.
When you re-fit the lid (its a lot easier with the intake pipe fully removed) squeeze the lid down at the end nearest the engine and slide it towards the wing. The lugs will engage and then you can snap the clips over.
When you re-fit the lid (its a lot easier with the intake pipe fully removed) squeeze the lid down at the end nearest the engine and slide it towards the wing. The lugs will engage and then you can snap the clips over.
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Hate to say this but my ITG did the same, about three tablespoons of gloop in the airbox and I binned it in the end. I did not fit it my self the boys at Scoobysport did it when my exhaust was done so it must have been fitted correctly. I have now had a K+N panel in and it has caused no mess at all. I have had K+N on all my cars and Bikes for the last 25 years and only went for the ITG on recommendation. Shame as everyone thinks they are good.
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Richbay,same as Andy I've run K & N 's for about 15 years an swear by them , I would be seriously worried about that amount of crap in the air box. Also the American Army use K & N s on there Apache attack helicopters to perform in all conditions....sorry I digress but seriously had no probs check their web site , far superior than other so called high flow /performance filters.
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Hi All,
I've run ITG filters in my last two scoobies. But I've never had a look for that gunge in the bottom of the filter box. It's got me a bit worried. I'm going to have a look at lunch time.
Fingers crossed
Gazza
I've run ITG filters in my last two scoobies. But I've never had a look for that gunge in the bottom of the filter box. It's got me a bit worried. I'm going to have a look at lunch time.
Fingers crossed
Gazza