Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Let's discuss Piston Slap...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 09:42 PM
  #1  
_benny_'s Avatar
_benny_
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: South London
Question Let's discuss Piston Slap...

I'm pretty certain my MY98 has a bad case of piston slap - this year is known to suffer quite badly and Subaru produced modified parts to rectify this. It sounds like a bag of nails when cold, but almost becomes silent when warmed up properly (15 mins+ driving). I haven't had it diagnosed properly but there's not really anything else it could be.

Now I've read a number of threads on ScoobyNet about people having piston slap and then having their big end bearings fail or the engine goes bang or whatever. Other people say they've had this slap for many years and it's never been a problem. So...

What is really going to happen to mine??? It gets driven very hard quite a lot of the time, although not until warmed up . I change the oil regularly (every 5-7k) with high quality, highly recommended stuff and there is never any metalic deposit on the magnetic sump plug and the oil doesn't seem to be in bad condition with no grittiness to it . Is there really any serious damage being done?

I look forward to your responses...

Cheers

Ben
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 07:15 AM
  #2  
The Rig's Avatar
The Rig
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,891
Likes: 8
Default

i read somewhere the vibration piston slap causes means the big end/crank gets the brunt of the vibration thus the big ends going......but im no expert.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:02 AM
  #3  
hmhaga's Avatar
hmhaga
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 326
Likes: 0
From: Telemark, Norway
Default

My 1998 wagon has had piston slap since new, mileage is now 180.000 km. It is frequently used on track days, no problems so far.
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:53 AM
  #4  
andy97's Avatar
andy97
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,296
Likes: 118
From: Api 500+bhp MD321T @91dB Probably SN's longest owner of an Impreza Turbo
Default

I had my engine fitted with built in piston slap, i've got forged pistons
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 09:50 PM
  #5  
_benny_'s Avatar
_benny_
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: South London
Default

Cheers guys.

So far it would seem that piston slap isn't really an issue. I'm suprised though that nobody has replied saying their engine has packed in due to it.

Are there any pro mechanics out there who could give their opinions?

Ben
Reply
Old Apr 19, 2006 | 10:01 PM
  #6  
Hakon's Avatar
Hakon
Supporting Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Default

A good look on search and you will find that the engine people say that as long as the slap goes when hot and not consuming too much oil then the engine is fine. Detailed seach might be better as you are able to specify the forums searched.
Reply
Old Apr 20, 2006 | 11:53 PM
  #7  
GreenTurbo98's Avatar
GreenTurbo98
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

My 97 sounds a bit noisy during the first few minutes but is fine after that. Doesn't uses any oil, no problems to date.
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:07 AM
  #8  
[Davey]'s Avatar
[Davey]
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,327
Likes: 1
From: Berkshire
Default

IMHO piston slap shouldn't have an adverse effect on the big ends, yes it will transfer some vibration down the crank but the piston will be turning slightly at the little end as it is designed to do.. It doesn't do much for the cylinder walls and your rings though
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:11 AM
  #9  
robsw's Avatar
robsw
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
From: South West
Default

Originally Posted by andy97
I had my engine fitted with built in piston slap, i've got forged pistons
How come out of interest?

Robin.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 03:07 PM
  #10  
_benny_'s Avatar
_benny_
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
From: South London
Default

That's exactly what I would have thought Davey. I certainly wouldn't expect NO damage is being done. Mine doesn't use any oil whatsoever, so things shouldn't be too worn yet!

I think I'll start being concerned when it starts using oil.

Cheers

Ben
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 03:26 PM
  #11  
Welloilbeefhooked's Avatar
Welloilbeefhooked
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,577
Likes: 0
From: Sheffield
Default

Ive have some slap and until it gives me some real problems then I'll leave it well alone. I understand your concern about spending a couple of K on a new engine but mine gets hammered (Dont read this if I ever advertise it on scoobynet) all the time after a good warm up.

When my MY98 WRX 2.0 goes bang, its 2.5 time!!
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2006 | 04:42 PM
  #12  
andy97's Avatar
andy97
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 6,296
Likes: 118
From: Api 500+bhp MD321T @91dB Probably SN's longest owner of an Impreza Turbo
Default

I opted for forged pistons on my 2.5, as they are known (by the tuning bods) to be more resilient at higher boost. They slap because of different expansion properties, but are fine once fully warmed up.

Andy
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
Nov 4, 2021 07:12 PM
SilverM3
ScoobyNet General
8
Feb 24, 2021 01:03 PM
bluebullet29
General Technical
9
Oct 5, 2015 02:17 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
Oct 2, 2015 09:22 AM
bluebullet29
General Technical
2
Sep 27, 2015 07:52 PM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:33 AM.