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Old 01 April 2006, 11:00 PM
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Default Engine problems help needed.

Ok from the beginning, I had a problem with my Apexi power Fc, i thought the rev limiter had just failed as the car reved upto 9000 rpm in 5th and i blew the engine up.

I bought a second hand engine that had been removed and stripped. Aparently because the head Gasket had gone.

I used my heads and sensors etc, but its Looking Bad Verry very Bad.

First off the car will not start.

so i decided to try my ecu in Neighbours Car (Mr H). the ecu will fire but his car will not start or Run so the ECU is dead.

I then used Mr H's ecu to try and start mine, but after 9 hours we still cannot get it to run.

as the engine was stripped when i got it, i assumed it was possible, the crank was 180o out (As the crank does 2 rotations to 1 rotation of the cam's) so i takes the timing belt off and rotated the crank 180o and tries again, still it will not go.

I do not know where to go from here.

help. Please
Old 01 April 2006, 11:04 PM
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Is one car a UK and the other a JDM?

The crank sensor wires are different. I think you just swop them over on the UK car, but dont hold me to that.
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Originally Posted by The [EMAIL="M@trix
I"]M@trix]I[/EMAIL] used my heads and sensors etc
Hi,

No both are JDM.

but even if the engine i bought was Uk as mentioned i used All my sensors. as i knew they worked.

i do not know where to go next.
Old 01 April 2006, 11:29 PM
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You didn't think to check all the timing marks on the crank/cams before you moved the crank 180 degrees then???
If it wasn't knackered before, it may well be now....
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Hi ron,

Before i turned the Crank all marks were lined up before i rotated the Crank.
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Originally Posted by The M@trix
Hi ron,

Before i turned the Crank all marks were lined up before i rotated the Crank.
I still don't get it, the crank cannot be 180 degrees out then, the belt pulley on the crank has only one woodruff keyway, so if all the marks line up, it can't be wrong....

Clearly something else is though....
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when i done mechanic training 18 years ago, i was only working with Vauxhall engines so a std 4 cylinder engine.

What i was Taught was, the crankshaft has to do two complete rotations to 1 complete rotation of the Camshafts.

assuming, no1 should be at tdc ready to start its induction stroke, if it is 180o out it would be ready to start its power stroke. but the fuel would only just be going in.

I havetimed a ford pinto up 180o out before and it will fire but not run properly and will not rev up.

turn the crank another 180o and it is perfect.

so, on the basic principles of what i had been taught it could be 180o out.

as i gave up mechanics after i finnished my training i havenot done it for about 15 years

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Originally Posted by The M@trix
when i done mechanic training 18 years ago, i was only working with Vauxhall engines so a std 4 cylinder engine.

What i was Taught was, the crankshaft has to do two complete rotations to 1 complete rotation of the Camshafts.

assuming, no1 should be at tdc ready to start its induction stroke, if it is 180o out it would be ready to start its power stroke. but the fuel would only just be going in.

I havetimed a ford pinto up 180o out before and it will fire but not run properly and will not rev up.

turn the crank another 180o and it is perfect.

so, on the basic principles of what i had been taught it could be 180o out.

as i gave up mechanics after i finnished my training i havenot done it for about 15 years
I'm sure this only applys to cars that run a dizzy.

And in that case it is the position of the camshaft that need to be changed not the crank. As long as the crank is TDC you should be ok.

Looks like your secondhand engine is knackered to me.

How do you know it was diffinatly a head gasket problem with the engine when it was first broke down?

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I still don't get it, the crank cannot be 180 degrees out then, the belt pulley on the crank has only one woodruff keyway, so if all the marks line up, it can't be wrong....

Clearly something else is though....
Agreed!

Craig

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