Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

K&N panel and a 99/00 MAF????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:23 AM
  #1  
keeno's Avatar
keeno
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Smile K&N panel and a 99/00 MAF????

Will a green/K&N panel filter damage my MAF? They are slightly oiled.

I'm staying away from an induction kit from fear of breaking the MAF.
I've been running an ITG which is worse than the two panels above, and it has been ok, I guess it goes down to luck with these year MAf's?
Another avenue is the STi paper filter, which I 've not heard all good comments about.
Hmmm what do I do, I don't really want to go down the route of the std oem item, I'm planning a remap on my P1 nxt year.
Confused
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:39 AM
  #2  
little_idiot's Avatar
little_idiot
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
From: Teesside
Default

The genuine STI filters that Simon Lau sells www.stiracing.co.uk are very good and aren't oiled (so do need to be replaced every so often). with them not being oiled, they are MAF friendly and also are supposed to perform better than other replacement filters. I have one in a my99 UK turbo and I'm happy with it.

There was a recent group buy on them, i would have though that if you have a word with Simon, you could get another one going

James
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:22 PM
  #3  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

Can vouch for the STi filters from Simon Lau. Excellent!

Bob
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:42 PM
  #4  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

I've had an STi fitted since April, no problems with it whatsoever. Better performance than the K&N it replaced...
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 05:30 PM
  #5  
keeno's Avatar
keeno
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Default

£50 +vat-ouch
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:57 PM
  #6  
richiewong's Avatar
richiewong
Twatful
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 9,050
Likes: 0
From: Grew up and don't drive Scoobs anymore!
Default

No problems with a K&N panel
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 12:09 AM
  #7  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

Originally Posted by keeno
£50 +vat-ouch

for a performance part

its cheap by anyones' standards.

Bob
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 09:43 AM
  #8  
7 Foot's Avatar
7 Foot
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,122
Likes: 1
From: Berkhamsted, Herts.
Default

All good filters.

Have had a K&N on my MY00 for over 20,000 miles and a Green since the last service (approx 6k).

In the 1st issue of Scooby magazine the std panel, STI, panel and the Green were tested back to back - the Green came out on top.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:17 AM
  #9  
Andrew Timmins's Avatar
Andrew Timmins
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 480
Likes: 0
From: Wolverhampton
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by BOB'5
for a performance part

its cheap by anyones' standards.

Bob
It is disposable though, like a standard filter, where as the K&N or Green can be cleaned and reused.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:20 AM
  #10  
Aztec Performance Ltd's Avatar
Aztec Performance Ltd
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (234)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,406
Likes: 0
From: Over 500ft/lbs of torque @ just 1.1bar
Default

At that price I would rather have a new fresh filter rather than a cleaned oily one. Its a service item.

Bob
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 11:23 AM
  #11  
Peanuts's Avatar
Peanuts
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 8,606
Likes: 0
From: Portsmouth
Default

I had a MAF sensor start failing when using a K&N panel filter.
although some have had them in use for 100's of miles without issue.
I have a green cotton filter (which I tried next ~ without any problems at all) and cleaning kit for sale also

presently I use an apexi (dry) cotton cone filter and Im happy with it

(99uk car btw)
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:49 PM
  #12  
ukdave's Avatar
ukdave
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 911
Likes: 0
From: Land of Reflection
Default

Originally Posted by keeno
Will a green/K&N panel filter damage my MAF? They are slightly oiled.

I'm staying away from an induction kit from fear of breaking the MAF.
I've been running an ITG which is worse than the two panels above, and it has been ok, I guess it goes down to luck with these year MAf's?
Another avenue is the STi paper filter, which I 've not heard all good comments about.
Hmmm what do I do, I don't really want to go down the route of the std oem item, I'm planning a remap on my P1 nxt year.
Confused
Ive had a green induction kit on my my/00 for a year now with no maf trouble,when i removed airbox it had a k+n panel in it so presumably previous owner had no trouble with that either. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...obymad/eb2.jpg
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:53 PM
  #13  
scooby-k's Avatar
scooby-k
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,435
Likes: 0
From: midlands
Default

got a green filter in my P1 no problems with maf as yet.
ken
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2004 | 10:52 PM
  #14  
Floyd's Avatar
Floyd
Scooby Regular
25 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,471
Likes: 10
Wink Really?

Originally Posted by The_Judge
I've had an STi fitted since April, no problems with it whatsoever. Better performance than the K&N it replaced...
Oh gawd, here I go again...

So you measured it back to back? Or felt it?

F
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 09:15 AM
  #15  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

Felt. So yes, it could have been placebo.

However, having said that, the K&N felt better than the standard OEM filter it replaced. Was that also placebo...?
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:47 AM
  #16  
dogpole's Avatar
dogpole
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 801
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln
Default

i've tried standard, k&n, green, itg and jr.
they all felt the same, but i had the maf go when using the itg, now using a green filter from TSL.

DP
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:24 PM
  #17  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

Originally Posted by dogpole
i've tried standard, k&n, green, itg and jr.
they all felt the same, but i had the maf go when using the itg, now using a green filter from TSL.

DP
You're probably spot on there. I think they're all pretty much of a muchness. The problem is, when you try a new one, you're nearly always comparing it to a dirty old one, so the comparisons aren't exactly fair. In which case Floyd is right, and I shouldn't have said what I said...
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:36 PM
  #18  
Floyd's Avatar
Floyd
Scooby Regular
25 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,471
Likes: 10
Default

Well done that man

The only mods that I felt a difference with were: DP, remap and turbo. Not tried FMIC or headers so can't comment. All other conceivable mods had no real affect individually but may have cumulatively, but as they go on in stages it's hard to tell.

From my experience anyone who says any different is very sensitive or justifying thier purchase.

F
PS I've excluded noz, cams and 2.5's of course and anything else off the beaten path.
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:40 PM
  #19  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:43 PM
  #20  
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
From: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Default

Welcome back Judge

MB
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:46 PM
  #21  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

Cheers matey. You alright?
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:50 PM
  #22  
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
From: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Default

Not bad ta - now got an STi V5 in white to tinker with, trying to keep this one!

How's you?

MB
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:21 PM
  #23  
keeno's Avatar
keeno
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for the answers, I know the air filter is not really a mod, but I need a new air filter, and don't want to fit oem.
The Green cotton filters and the K&N are exactly the same I thought, so either of them I should be safe with, even though a few of you have had probs the K&N and Mafs failing. I think I'm two steps forwards, three steps back. I think I'll go for an induction kit if/when I go for a remap. So Sti paper filter at approx £60-70 or the Green/K&N at approx £40
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:29 PM
  #24  
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
From: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Default

Green cotton or K&N will be fine.

Induction kits are generally regraded as worth avoiding until they become a restriction, at around 350bhp.

Watch where you get the STi one if you go for it, some are fake. ScoobyMania will sort you out. The Green did very well in a recent indipendant test.

MB
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:39 PM
  #25  
keeno's Avatar
keeno
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Default

Green it is then-Thanks
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 02:16 PM
  #26  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

DBM - I'm OK. Needed a rest from here...! But back now.

Looking back over old posts (which I don't want to resurrect), I can't believe the rough ordeal Greasemonkey got. There are alot of spiteful unappreciative arseholes on here, some of who were obvious before the posts, some after...
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 02:33 PM
  #27  
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
From: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Default

I shall PM you soon

MB
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2004 | 02:39 PM
  #28  
The_Judge's Avatar
The_Judge
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Out of darkness cometh light
Default

Look forward to it...
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 12:46 AM
  #29  
Floyd's Avatar
Floyd
Scooby Regular
25 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,471
Likes: 10
Unhappy

Originally Posted by The_Judge
DBM - I'm OK. Needed a rest from here...! But back now.

Looking back over old posts (which I don't want to resurrect), I can't believe the rough ordeal Greasemonkey got. There are alot of spiteful unappreciative arseholes on here, some of who were obvious before the posts, some after...
Seem to have missed that one, got any links?

F
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2004 | 09:13 AM
  #30  
Dark Blue Mark's Avatar
Dark Blue Mark
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,333
Likes: 0
From: Bournemouth - 5x Ex Impreza owner. 997 GT3 CS.
Default

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352945

There you go Floyd.

MB
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SilverM3
ScoobyNet General
8
Feb 24, 2021 01:03 PM
Abx
Subaru
22
Jan 9, 2016 05:42 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
Dec 28, 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
Nov 18, 2015 07:03 AM
makkink
General Technical
10
Oct 1, 2015 05:41 PM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:08 PM.