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Old 10 November 2004, 10:23 AM
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Smile K&N panel and a 99/00 MAF????

Will a green/K&N panel filter damage my MAF? They are slightly oiled.

I'm staying away from an induction kit from fear of breaking the MAF.
I've been running an ITG which is worse than the two panels above, and it has been ok, I guess it goes down to luck with these year MAf's?
Another avenue is the STi paper filter, which I 've not heard all good comments about.
Hmmm what do I do, I don't really want to go down the route of the std oem item, I'm planning a remap on my P1 nxt year.
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Old 10 November 2004, 10:39 AM
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The genuine STI filters that Simon Lau sells www.stiracing.co.uk are very good and aren't oiled (so do need to be replaced every so often). with them not being oiled, they are MAF friendly and also are supposed to perform better than other replacement filters. I have one in a my99 UK turbo and I'm happy with it.

There was a recent group buy on them, i would have though that if you have a word with Simon, you could get another one going

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Old 10 November 2004, 12:22 PM
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Can vouch for the STi filters from Simon Lau. Excellent!

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Old 10 November 2004, 01:42 PM
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I've had an STi fitted since April, no problems with it whatsoever. Better performance than the K&N it replaced...
Old 10 November 2004, 05:30 PM
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£50 +vat-ouch
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No problems with a K&N panel
Old 11 November 2004, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by keeno
£50 +vat-ouch

for a performance part

its cheap by anyones' standards.

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Old 11 November 2004, 09:43 AM
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All good filters.

Have had a K&N on my MY00 for over 20,000 miles and a Green since the last service (approx 6k).

In the 1st issue of Scooby magazine the std panel, STI, panel and the Green were tested back to back - the Green came out on top.
Old 11 November 2004, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
for a performance part

its cheap by anyones' standards.

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It is disposable though, like a standard filter, where as the K&N or Green can be cleaned and reused.
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At that price I would rather have a new fresh filter rather than a cleaned oily one. Its a service item.

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Old 11 November 2004, 11:23 AM
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I had a MAF sensor start failing when using a K&N panel filter.
although some have had them in use for 100's of miles without issue.
I have a green cotton filter (which I tried next ~ without any problems at all) and cleaning kit for sale also

presently I use an apexi (dry) cotton cone filter and Im happy with it

(99uk car btw)
Old 11 November 2004, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by keeno
Will a green/K&N panel filter damage my MAF? They are slightly oiled.

I'm staying away from an induction kit from fear of breaking the MAF.
I've been running an ITG which is worse than the two panels above, and it has been ok, I guess it goes down to luck with these year MAf's?
Another avenue is the STi paper filter, which I 've not heard all good comments about.
Hmmm what do I do, I don't really want to go down the route of the std oem item, I'm planning a remap on my P1 nxt year.
Confused
Ive had a green induction kit on my my/00 for a year now with no maf trouble,when i removed airbox it had a k+n panel in it so presumably previous owner had no trouble with that either. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...obymad/eb2.jpg
Old 11 November 2004, 05:53 PM
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got a green filter in my P1 no problems with maf as yet.
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Old 11 November 2004, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Judge
I've had an STi fitted since April, no problems with it whatsoever. Better performance than the K&N it replaced...
Oh gawd, here I go again...

So you measured it back to back? Or felt it?

F
Old 12 November 2004, 09:15 AM
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Felt. So yes, it could have been placebo.

However, having said that, the K&N felt better than the standard OEM filter it replaced. Was that also placebo...?
Old 12 November 2004, 10:47 AM
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i've tried standard, k&n, green, itg and jr.
they all felt the same, but i had the maf go when using the itg, now using a green filter from TSL.

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Old 12 November 2004, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dogpole
i've tried standard, k&n, green, itg and jr.
they all felt the same, but i had the maf go when using the itg, now using a green filter from TSL.

DP
You're probably spot on there. I think they're all pretty much of a muchness. The problem is, when you try a new one, you're nearly always comparing it to a dirty old one, so the comparisons aren't exactly fair. In which case Floyd is right, and I shouldn't have said what I said...
Old 12 November 2004, 12:36 PM
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Well done that man

The only mods that I felt a difference with were: DP, remap and turbo. Not tried FMIC or headers so can't comment. All other conceivable mods had no real affect individually but may have cumulatively, but as they go on in stages it's hard to tell.

From my experience anyone who says any different is very sensitive or justifying thier purchase.

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PS I've excluded noz, cams and 2.5's of course and anything else off the beaten path.
Old 12 November 2004, 12:40 PM
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Old 12 November 2004, 12:43 PM
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Welcome back Judge

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Old 12 November 2004, 12:46 PM
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Cheers matey. You alright?
Old 12 November 2004, 12:50 PM
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Not bad ta - now got an STi V5 in white to tinker with, trying to keep this one!

How's you?

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Old 12 November 2004, 01:21 PM
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Thanks for the answers, I know the air filter is not really a mod, but I need a new air filter, and don't want to fit oem.
The Green cotton filters and the K&N are exactly the same I thought, so either of them I should be safe with, even though a few of you have had probs the K&N and Mafs failing. I think I'm two steps forwards, three steps back. I think I'll go for an induction kit if/when I go for a remap. So Sti paper filter at approx £60-70 or the Green/K&N at approx £40
Old 12 November 2004, 01:29 PM
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Green cotton or K&N will be fine.

Induction kits are generally regraded as worth avoiding until they become a restriction, at around 350bhp.

Watch where you get the STi one if you go for it, some are fake. ScoobyMania will sort you out. The Green did very well in a recent indipendant test.

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Old 12 November 2004, 01:39 PM
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Green it is then-Thanks
Old 12 November 2004, 02:16 PM
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DBM - I'm OK. Needed a rest from here...! But back now.

Looking back over old posts (which I don't want to resurrect), I can't believe the rough ordeal Greasemonkey got. There are alot of spiteful unappreciative arseholes on here, some of who were obvious before the posts, some after...
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I shall PM you soon

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Originally Posted by The_Judge
DBM - I'm OK. Needed a rest from here...! But back now.

Looking back over old posts (which I don't want to resurrect), I can't believe the rough ordeal Greasemonkey got. There are alot of spiteful unappreciative arseholes on here, some of who were obvious before the posts, some after...
Seem to have missed that one, got any links?

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http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=352945

There you go Floyd.

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