terry3333

hi all,


as above says i ran 254bhp on the power engineering rollers, with my uk MY00 with scoobysport fitted ecutek2 and full de-cat .. just wondered if these are the normal figures to expect from these 2 mods also have sti panel filter..

any input welcome .

tel

Brun

My Tek 3 (my99) with full decat got 257bhp

yhe chod

what about the torque figure ? [the telling one]

terry3333

so where are the figures that they advertise with ??? like 280bhp ??

terry3333

quite good really 259 lbs/ft torque

Brun

250Ib here

TonyBurns

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You will be very lucky to get 280bhp from a uk car without changing the turbo (MY97 onwards), 250-260 is average, 270 is high end.
Torque is what your after though

Tony

NelsonUK

To give you an idea I got 252BHP & 261 ft/lb Torque running a MY00 with PPP fully Decatted with STI panel. So I'd say that your figure is good

leon26

ive got a better figure i got 249bhp and 247lb of torque with just a centre decat, ninja backbox and a apexi induction kit no remapping done on a my99 uk turbo! run on the pe rollers aswel! so i would think you should get more then that! from a remap!

Jim_B

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My MY00 Tek2, full decat + STi Panel filter got 246 BHP with 239 lbft on the rollers at Powerstation back in the summer. Was a lot lower than I expected too.

edmy716

i got 275bhp and 280lb with tek3 and full decat my99uk turbo mapped by tsl.

NENO

As an indicator I had to do a fair amount of work to get 293/288 from my UK97 on the standard TD04 turbo I.E. ported headers, SS uppipe and full decat. 440 injectors, fuel pump, pressure regulator, green mushroom induction, STi 5 I/C plus the remap. I also had to tell them that I wanted more and was prepared to sacrific the turbo's longevity to get it.

Best of luck

TAINTON

Sorry but im obviously getting confused here.....apolgies in advance.

A Prodrive Classic say MY00 likes ours nelson should run 240bhp/258ib Torque...correct me if im wrong.

Im running vortex backbox and decat centre only and was under the impression mine should be around the 250 mark.

Dont they say a full decat should release 25ish bhp add that to your prodrive and 265.

Kind of seems pointless to get full decat plus filter for extra 12bhp

Ashley

Jay_bee

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I got 281.6 bhp & 286.1lb/ft torque from my99 UK with Scoobysport decat downpipe, magnex decat centre and Scoobysport back box

Did another run with a STi panel filter in and got 276bhp & 296.1 lb/ft torque.

This was done at ProSport.

J

john banks

As always, the errors between rollers are bigger than the mods you are putting on. Generally you might get 10% from a remap and 10% from a full exhaust as a rough guide.

NelsonUK

I must admit Ash I wasn't too sure what to think of my RR result. I had read that the PPP standard is 238BHP and 255 ft/lb ? there are thereabouts I suppose. I thought that the PPP ECU has been designed to have the Catted d/pipe in place hence why you don't get a massive gain ? I thought that a full Decat is worth about 20 BHP and because the PPP has the centre cat removed then the d/pipe would theoretically only give about an extra 10-15BHP ? again the ECU has been designed to give good mid-range punch so I suppose most of the work has already been done ? I also have the boost restrictor drilled out to 1.3mm cos I found the ECU couldn't cope with it at the standard 1.2 The power curve was actually rather good very flat and there wasn't any spiking etc which was nice to see. IIRC the car held 0.95 BAR across the range - peaking at 5350rpm. I was also told that the PPP overfuelling a little more than expected at the top end and is washing off a bit of power, which is something I have to sort out

Anyone else got any comments/experiences ??

TAINTON

I kind of see what your saying, our prodrive ecu are quite restrictive so we would probably benefit more from an Tek3 along with the mods you have already done that should see you to 275

NelsonUK

Tek3 is what I am seriously considering for further power mate

I wouldn't say the Prodrive ecu is restrictive - I mean it does give a nice amount of 'safe' power but you know how it is with the strive for more power I just think that if I'm gonna go the Tek3 route I might as well change the Turbo etc at the same time

Will stick with my setup for the time being and consider my options i think

EddScott

Me too mate. My car made 269BHP/270lbft at Power Engineering when the TEK2 was done - K&N Panel, full decat MY00.

At Powerstation mine made 242 and 240.

I think PS may well be closer to the real figure tbh.

Jim_B

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Cheers for that Edd..
Had heard that the Powerstation rollers gave quite different results from the Power Engineering ones, but nice to hear it factually.
I was considering a custom remap - but without changing the turbo - I am still not sure that I will get the sort of power I had really hoped for.

scoobyDAZZA

mine was low at PS as well,,,, full de-cat and re-map was 251/238
since that ive added headers/up-pipe and blitz sus induction kit.
needs a tweak then hoping for 265/260 ish

but a few people have told me that PS rr runs low..but then again,is it the others
that run high . . lol . . going interpro,bristol next month,have to see what it does there.

EddScott

Mine is TEK2 but in the near future funds may well be available to allow the purchase of a few more mods to get me to the 300BHP mark. I don't want much over but what I'd like is that any rollers my car goes on it makes as close to 300 as possible.

However, I'm not 100% that this can be done with TEK2 and it has to be TEK3 as this is a custom map. Really need to speak to someone who knows exactly what the differences are if you want to add more mods later.

Jim_B

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IMHO the TEK2 was a safe map for all cars which had the standard breathing mods - i.e been decat and replacement panel filters. So a custom map would be tailored to your individual car and could push that little bit harder as it doesnt have to be a one product fits all.
Of course many mods beyond the exhaust / filter would need a custom remap to get the full benefit.

Would also like around 300BHP and was wondering if it is possible without changing the turbo.. Seem to recall the TD04 struggles above about 270BHP

Steve Cranfield

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I have a Tek3 with full decat and pipercross induction kit. It was mapped by Pat in essex and straight after it was done it recorded 254.9bhp and 266lb/ft. was pleased with this as before the map i was only getting 223lb/ft, Pat also said it takes about 200 miles for the ECU to settle down so should see a bit more once run for a while. I will be having it RR'ed again soon to see the differance.

Ayde

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My99 uk Full de-cat, K&N panel and STI intercooler 264.4/259.? On a std ecu at Prosport on the SIDC rolling road day.