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Old 06 February 2003, 10:47 PM
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Sorry, Tony..I can't see it mate: You dump the charge in the system, instead of keeping it, so the ECU sees MORE air rushing in than it expects and adds more fuel.......for the air that was actually dumped......meaning EXTRA fuel....not less?
After all, the ECU only controls the fuelling, the driver controls the amount of air?
Or am I completely bonkers?

I thought the remapping was to irradicate the richness which resulted from the overfuelling, which could lead to nasties like bore-wash.

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Old 01 June 2003, 09:55 AM
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RE: Dump valves
I've heard the atmospheric type can be a pain in the backside when idling etc, but I've seen an advert for the bailey EVO, dual piston jobbie that's supposed to eliminate these problems. Does anyone run one of these, and are they any good?
Old 01 June 2003, 10:52 AM
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I used to have an Escort RS Turbo and I put a Bailey dual piston dump valve on that. The dual piston design of the Bailey dump valve overcomes the idling problems. You do not even need to get it set up on the rolling road after! They look good and of course sound brilliant! Go for it mate and get a Bailey dump valve!
Old 01 June 2003, 12:30 PM
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Good advice - how much would it cost to buy a Bailey dump valve and get it fitted to a MY95 WRX?
would it effect warranty?
Old 01 June 2003, 03:12 PM
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The downside with dta dv's is that they can lean your mixture out (which isnt a good thing )
If you have an ecu thats been mapped to run one of these then there shouldnt be any problems, otherwise it can be a minefield

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Old 01 June 2003, 04:32 PM
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How does a VTA lean your mixture? As I understand it, they cause the MAF to read MORE air going into the system because the re-circ isn't there, so the ECU runs rich, not lean? Hence the pops & bangs?
Old 01 June 2003, 04:59 PM
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yeah i thought that as well lol
cant see it makeing it more lean
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Scoobs run rich to start with, hence the pops n bangs on a full decat system, the dta (i shall try to get this right ) dumps its gasses in one go, the ecu and maf sense this and compensate, unfortunately when they compensate for something they wernt designed to compensate for they add more air (making the mixure leaner as it doesnt need anymore air), this is where you get your lean spot.
Its not long but it can be damaging (hence why scoobs dont like dta dv's unless mapped for them).

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Had one on my Punto GT it worked fine but I changed it for the Collins double piston which made the car run better (and the noise was better to)!
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