Power Junkie

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I have a MY96 wagon with a TD04, Dawes Device, Magnex zorst. would it be worth putting a TD05 on with a remap? Would this give a good increase in power. any advice would be a great help.

Thanks Mark!!

Power Junkie

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Any takers?? any turbo upgrade help would be great, and power increse would gain.. would I need to do other mod's also??

Nick200

M8, of course it would, with a td05 and a full(good) remap you could have well over 280+ depends on uprated fuel pump etc which I would advise if you want more power anyway.
Some people have td05's running well above 300 bhp easily.

888 WRX

If you want a TD05...I know a man that can get you one!

Ruth

ChristianR

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speak to mark @ laterial performance - he can sort you out!

Dave D

I got my TD05 with a front entry conversion to fit the later cars from Andy F and I was well pleased with the price.

Dave

harvey

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If you look at posts by Andy F. and John Banks you will see what they were achieving with TD05's and what they are doing now with the 06 upgrade. Andy has made some front entry covers for the TD05 if you do not want to go for the mega power of the 06 upgrade.
Suggest you e-mail Andy for more info direct but I have a TD05 in the garage if you want a straight turbo without the front entry.
Defiitely big gains to be had.

LimeyDrink

I have a 95 WRX,

I don't want to spend too much more money at the moment(spent loads recently) but was wondering how much of a restriction the TD05 90deg entry is.

The reason I ask is that I am deciding whether to convert my current TD05 to front entry first or go straight for the TD05/06 turbo conversion.

The TD05 front-entry conversion seems like a lot of hassle and would probably cost the same to perform - manifold spacers, turbo inlet pipe, front entry turbo cover fuel lines labour and possible loss of ABS.

Would the 90deg inlet TD05/06 conversion perform alot better than a straight entry standard TD05 ?

What does everyone else think ?

Thanks

Nick200

If you can afford the tdo5/6 m8 then do it, got to be worth it as long as your engine can handle it.

Andy.F

See John Bank's post re the difference between a TD05 FE hybrid and a TD06-20G Hybrid. The TD05 on John's car was converted to front entry and had a ported exhaust housing (ie not a std TD05)

A WRX will normally struggle to get past 350-360 BHP on the original 90 degree TD05.
My testing has shown that even on standard heads and cams, eliminating the 90 degree entry on the TD05 can release between 20-30 bhp.
Upgrading from the TD05 FE to the TD06 FE hybrid can release a further 40-50 bhp ie 60-80 bhp more than a std 90 degree TD05.

The remainder of the induction and exhaust system also needs to be able to flow this amount of gas to see the above improvements.

Fuel supply and ignition timing also need to be capable of supporting it.

Andy

There is not currently a 90 degree TD06 hybrid available although I was considering designing a high flow plenum chamber to allow the TD06 FE to 'bolt on' to a pre97 car.

[Edited by Andy.F - 3/18/2003 2:30:59 PM]

Nick200

What a cool bloke>>

Edited to add a smiley.

[Edited by Nick200 - 3/18/2003 2:39:58 PM]

LimeyDrink

Thanks for that Andy,

Just wondering, are you still considering a high flow plenum chamber for it :-)

What sort of money would we be talking for the kit, is it easy to convert my own TD05 or would you prefer to sell an already converted one ?

I know it would be a good idea to go for the front-entry mod but if I could gain say an extra 30-40hp going from a 90deg TD05 to a 90deg TD05/06 then I think that would be a better performance gain than converting the TD05 to a front entry and also more cost effective and lots less hassle.

I know that the front entry mod is not just about top end power but can also improve turbo spool up but I have quite sort ratio gears and so a bit of lag doesn't bother me.

Does porting the exhaust housing of the TD05 make much difference, I have done it the larger diameter up-pipe I have meant there was quite a large step from the up-pipe to the turbine inlet.

Andy.F

Porting the turbine inlet seems to help spool up but I don't have any accurate data on this mod in isolation.

I think it is unlikely that I'll be doing the 90 degree inlet for the TD06 front end, too many little projects going on with my own car

The upgrade kits and TD05 donor turbo's are in quite short supply at the moment so I have only been supplying these as a complete built unit.

YHM (in a minute) with costs

cheers

Andy

QA Guy

888 WRX,

Please contact me with details about how to get a TD05.

Thank you!

motomc1

hi any info on were i can get a td05 thanks matt Have a spare td04 if any one needs one

888 WRX

QA Guy,

Go to www.glenburgie-subaru.co.uk

He imports and breaks about 4 cars a month from Japan....he can send you whatever you like, but is based near Inverness....

If he is a bit far out of your reach then most decent breakers should have TD05's. Alternatively, look in the For Sale section here - there are often bits floating around in there!!


Ruth

QA Guy

Ruth,

Thank you for the reply and the link!

Are any of these breakers set up with an internet accessible parts system?

john banks

Never seen a UK breaker doing that - you need to call them.

RICH WILD

I recently recorded 326bhp on a 97 UK car at G-Force Rolling Road with one of these FE TD05s and this was on the standard ECU and injectors. I'm going to change these soon, but it just shows, you don't HAVE to swap the ECU immediately for those worried about digging themselves a big financial hole.

The spec of the car was:

Blitz SUS
MRT silicone inlet
TD05 FE
MRT top mount
HKS boost controller (1.4 bar)
HKS FCD
Lambda and Knocklink
full Jap innovations decat
MRT lightened pulley wheels
Uprated fuel pump

Cheers Rich

[Edited by RICH WILD - 4/22/2003 5:03:05 PM]

ChristianR

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http://www.lateralperformance.com/

Weenie

Is anyone able to tell me how I can tell if I have a front entry or the 90degree inlet turbo please. Its on a 97 WRX.

Thanks

john banks

Front entry.

RICH WILD

The way to tell is:

If the pipework from your induction kit/airbox routes round towards the back of the engine and goes stright downwards into the turbo, that's a 90 degree inlet. You will be able to see a 90 degree metal pipe leading into the front of the turbo.

If the pipework form the induction kit/ airbox routes round towards the front of the engine and then disappears off under the inlet manifold, it goes straight into the front of the turbo, therefore front entry.

I'd put you some pics up but I think the uploader is still playing up.

Cheers

Rich

CJRH

Am I write in saying that a TD05 is a bigger turbo? If so what models does it come from?
I recently posted on another thread about ECUTEC upgrades to increase power but from what has been said I think the turbo upgrade might be the way forward. Currently have M99 PPP full decat 260BHP at Power Engineering.
If this is the way forward what kind of money am I looking at? Will the ECU need re-mapping etc?

Cheers

Chris

Weenie

Thanks Rich and John,

It is front entry, can quite easily make it out. No need for the pictures.

M0NEY

I was speaking to Andy on email and this front entry turbo on the earlier cars seem definitely worth it. When i go down this route, i think i will be contacting you again Andy asking for info as i know there is a lot of work to do!

Cheers for your help

Cheers to John Banks as well