Knife edging, baffling, dry sump. worth the effort ??
09 January 2003, 10:17 PM
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Just throwing ideas around...as you do 
not seen the inside of a scooby block yet, but was wondfering if knife edging the crank has any useful gains?
what about baffling between sump and crank ?
does the underside of each piston get a squirt of oil from a specifically placed jet or does it rely on splash from crank?
Is there a mod to do this if the jet is not standard.
ooh another thought !
not much mention of dry sumps on scoobs?
Andy
not seen the inside of a scooby block yet, but was wondfering if knife edging the crank has any useful gains?
what about baffling between sump and crank ?
does the underside of each piston get a squirt of oil from a specifically placed jet or does it rely on splash from crank?
Is there a mod to do this if the jet is not standard.
ooh another thought !
not much mention of dry sumps on scoobs?
Andy
09 January 2003, 10:34 PM
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Fuzz,
It's not really worth knife edging, since the crank doesn't sit in the oil. It's certainly worth looking at extra sump baffles though. I don't know anyong who's tried dry sumping. It's a bit tight for space for a tank, and a well baffled sump works well.
The only blocks that have oil squirters, are the closed deck blocks. Phase one open deck blocks can have squirters fitted, but it's a bugger to do, and if you're re-building, you're better off with a CDB anyway.
Mark.
It's not really worth knife edging, since the crank doesn't sit in the oil. It's certainly worth looking at extra sump baffles though. I don't know anyong who's tried dry sumping. It's a bit tight for space for a tank, and a well baffled sump works well.
The only blocks that have oil squirters, are the closed deck blocks. Phase one open deck blocks can have squirters fitted, but it's a bugger to do, and if you're re-building, you're better off with a CDB anyway.
Mark.
09 January 2003, 10:38 PM
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I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WOULD MAKE ALL THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE (KNIFE EDGING) AS FOR PISTON COOLING JETS IF THEY HAVE'NT GOT THEM ALREADY IT WOULD BE MAJOR GRIEF TRYING TO FIT THEM.
IS THERE REALY ANY NEED FOR DRY SUMPS ON A SCOOB WORKS TEAMS DONT USE THEM DO THEY(AT LEAST I DONT THINK THEY DO
MATT
p.s i've just realised i had caps lock on sorry
p.p.s if you started delving into your engine that deeply you'd get that nice engine bay dirty!!!!!he he (only joking)
IS THERE REALY ANY NEED FOR DRY SUMPS ON A SCOOB WORKS TEAMS DONT USE THEM DO THEY(AT LEAST I DONT THINK THEY DO
MATT
p.s i've just realised i had caps lock on sorry
p.p.s if you started delving into your engine that deeply you'd get that nice engine bay dirty!!!!!he he (only joking)
09 January 2003, 11:10 PM
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Webster,
I think the modding for the current engine is coming to an end, no point in spending wads of cash on a weezy 2.0L
need to look into "the next engine".
having had my first ever scoob only six months, I need to get to know what they are like on the inside before I get to see bits of it led on the tarmac
(backing up a little)
still going down,FMIC, big turbo,route but that'll be all on current engine.
(all subject to change of course)
other thoughts are separate Track only car with home built engine to prove my worth/reliability to enable me sell my mods to you lot? <dreaming>
Andy <head in a spin>
I think the modding for the current engine is coming to an end, no point in spending wads of cash on a weezy 2.0L
need to look into "the next engine".
having had my first ever scoob only six months, I need to get to know what they are like on the inside before I get to see bits of it led on the tarmac
(backing up a little)
still going down,FMIC, big turbo,route but that'll be all on current engine.
(all subject to change of course)
other thoughts are separate Track only car with home built engine to prove my worth/reliability to enable me sell my mods to you lot
? <dreaming>Andy <head in a spin>
09 January 2003, 11:31 PM
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Fuzz,
I must say your car looked the BO***cks last weekend on the rollers , i think personally that a very clean well presented car looks alot better than a over modded car i just wish my car was just as clean (but when my girlfriend uses it every day and drives onto a farm in it to feed her horses it's never gonna stay tidy) and as for your comment about engine parts led out on the road , it's nice to have extra power but without compromisimg reliabillity
I must say your car looked the BO***cks last weekend on the rollers , i think personally that a very clean well presented car looks alot better than a over modded car i just wish my car was just as clean (but when my girlfriend uses it every day and drives onto a farm in it to feed her horses it's never gonna stay tidy) and as for your comment about engine parts led out on the road , it's nice to have extra power but without compromisimg reliabillity
10 January 2003, 11:51 AM
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Im looking at baffling a sump.. just need some good pics to copy or a sump...
I mentioned dry sumps as well.. and got laughed at...
David
I mentioned dry sumps as well.. and got laughed at...
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10 January 2003, 07:18 PM
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David,
shame your so bloody far away.
one day I shall be at ten of the best...one day !
Webster,
LOL...I live on a Farm, mines just as dirty as yours most days.
I just made the extra effort for the RR day
p.s got that det sorted yet ?
must get back to the workshop, I have a DIY earthing block on the lathe.... more drivel and fresh posts later..
Andy
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[Edited by Fuzz - 1/10/2003 7:23:20 PM]
[Edited by Fuzz - 1/10/2003 7:34:43 PM]
shame your so bloody far away.
one day I shall be at ten of the best...one day !
Webster,
LOL...I live on a Farm, mines just as dirty as yours most days.
I just made the extra effort for the RR day
p.s got that det sorted yet ?
must get back to the workshop, I have a DIY earthing block on the lathe....
more drivel and fresh posts later..Andy
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[Edited by Fuzz - 1/10/2003 7:23:20 PM]
[Edited by Fuzz - 1/10/2003 7:34:43 PM]
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10 January 2003, 10:11 PM
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mines the blue wrx wagon with a measily 203bhp wrxbaker has the red wrx with the det , he took it back on wednesday but they couldn't sort it they're going to unichip it this week and that should sort the det
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So i've been told there is a problem with the ecu and the unichip will repair/replace/cover/cure/hide? (delete as apropriate)the problem. I'm know Where your coming from Trout but they know what they are doing, and i certainly have no cause to disagree
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