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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Hi Guys

Does anybody know where I can get Toulene? I know I can Iso-propyl from Boots, but its where to get the Toulene.
Don't mind travelling.


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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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paint wholesalers, as in industrial/auto paint, not dulux

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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Do you not mean toluene?
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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paint wholesalers will sell it mixed with xylene wont they??

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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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If it is Toluene That I think you are after you could try specialist scientific chemical suppliers.

We used it in our research lab at Uni. But think they stopped using it cause it is pretty nasty stuff and is carcinogenic (gives you cancer!)

What do you wanna use it for anyway?
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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Toluene is not carcinogenic.
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Limited information is available regarding the chronic (long-term) or carcinogenic effects of toluene-2,4-diamine in humans. However, Chronic animal studies have reported liver injury. In animal studies, toluene-2,4-diamine was carcinogenic following dietary administration, producing a significant increase in the incidence of a large variety of tumor types, including liver, mammary gland, subcutaneous fibromas, lung lymphomas, and leukemia. EPA has classified toluene-2,4-diamine as a Group B2, probable human carcinogen.

Thats good enough for me.

And just because there is limited info on humans doesnt mean its safe. Most labs stay clear of it if they can.
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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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Thanks Guys

Yes you're right as usual crap spelling.

As for use, its mixed as a 7% mixture by volume of fuel used to boost octane levels in petrol (ie/ 5litres with 100cc Iso-propyl to 65ltrs Optimax, or 60 ltrs od SUL. Toluene is prone to flaring so the alcohol mitigates this). Before anyone says it, I know its not legal on the road, but it is on the track.

Any specific places would be useful.


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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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http://www.sci-chem.co.uk/Main/searchframe.asp

Dont know if they will sell to private individuals but you could try.

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Old Aug 30, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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Thanx very much
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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 12:56 AM
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As I understand it a lot of UK racers used to use Toluene to make up cheap race fuel - and I have spoken to Aussies who still use it to make 110RON fuel for their Scoobies - I think the mix was 35% Toluene to PULP.

Upside is great knock protection

Downside is fouled plugs
Also IIRC it is illegal to store Toluene anywhere except special designated locations now - i.e. not your house - and so it is pretty much very difficult to get in the UK

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Will the lambda sensor be affected by it?
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