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Old Feb 7, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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Yeah, but I'd put the earth in the "wrong" place

Can't wait to get mapping the MY01 as they have a wideband that might actually be accurate

It is quite amazing - the same fuel map on cars with almost identical mods and working seemingly working lambda sensors can read extraordinarily different.

They are OK for checking ballpark mixtures, but I have lost a lot of confidence in them for mapping, so I just stay conservative with the fuelling. But the occasional sensor takes the pi$$ and makes life very difficult.

Try to tell a customer you are mapping "conservatively" when the lambda sensor suggests 1% CO on full load One poor chap I kept sending away and the third lambda sensor read readings that were more sensible, but sensors that tell lies are a nightmare.

Sadly a rolling road gas probe will arguably not be much more representative because of the different airflows on the rolling road, although at least it would be consistent.

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Old Feb 7, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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Yeah, but I'd put the earth in the "wrong" place
Lets not start that argument again. Anyway, the best place is on the negetive terminal of the battery.

[Edited by Katana - 7/2/2002 3:28:42 PM]
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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According to the website (dawesdevices.com)

"From 1.0 volts up, the blue light illuminates, indicating that you are very rich, and may want to consider lowering fuel delivery or raising boost for more power"

who then, on fitting an afr & getting the blue light has wound the boost up??

im currently running 18psi fully decat but am a bit doubtfull as to whether to trust it entirely!

youre thoughts/actions please gentlemen
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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if you bought the afr through jamie then it will be recalibrated and the blue light is not 1v +. If you dont trust it then simply measue the voltage signal yourself with a voltmeter.

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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 09:52 PM
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i did buy it through jamie, only got it about a week ago, so does the blue not mean very rich then??
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 02:00 AM
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Did you get the WRX one ?? They have different set points for the LED's. Check Jamie's web site under WRX somewhere and you will get the modified settings (takes a bit of finding )
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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Andy - You could try looking under the sections:

Dawes>AFR>WRX

Dodge - rest assured you did indeed get the WRX calibrated AFR.

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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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Cheers Jamie

I also need one, will phone today
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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I'll look forward to it!

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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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Jamie

Forgot to say, I had problems with your website links, they wanted to send me a file that I couldn't open ??

http://www.performanceexhausts.net/DawesDevices.html

was an old link I had and it worked ok
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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Thanks Andy, it's strange that as you are the second person to say the same thing today but I think Ive sorted it now.

Jamie - JW Racing
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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How much do I trust the AFR?

Depends on the installer. If it was john banks, 100%. If on the other hand it was me or any other people from the muppet forum, 50%.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 06:21 PM
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so would no-one be confident in raising there boost when getting blue light??
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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Getting the fuelling right is one thing, predicting material tollerences is another. You don't need detonation to ruin an engine. Making it work much harder than what the material can take can also screw your engine up..
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