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Old 06 July 2018, 09:38 PM
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Hi,

I've been looking to buy an induction kit for my 09 330s hatch but they seem to be a lot more expensive then 01-07 ones.

I was wondering if an induction kit for a hawkeye would work in my hatch ?

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Cant see it fitting otherwise they would list them.as so. Ive a new perrin inner wing one on ebay , cheapest on there.
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
Cant see it fitting otherwise they would list them.as so. Ive a new perrin inner wing one on ebay , cheapest on there.
Do you have a link for it?

And the reason I asked was when I searched on eBay it came up with a few that did fit 07 and hatches ?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352377246920?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p39 84.m1558.l2649


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3523772469...84.m1558.l2649
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Won't improve performance at all though.
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Won't improve performance at all though.
True - the OE is good for north of 370, and it's a nice cold air feed - does a great job

Fit something like a K&N in the box instead
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Image a K&N filter in the box already,
Looking to have a more aggressive sound on full throttle and I prefer an induction kit had it on my previous Scooby
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Originally Posted by Scott10199
Image a K&N filter in the box already,
Looking to have a more aggressive sound on full throttle and I prefer an induction kit had it on my previous Scooby
If you're happy compromising performance for sound, then absolutely all's fine in the world
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Agreed. Why not just remove your resonator box, that will free up some sound, plus be able to hear more turbo noise.

I've just removed my dump valve. Already miss the sound. But prefer the engine to run safely.

I have a pipercross one which works well.


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If you're happy compromising performance for sound, then absolutely all's fine in the world
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Won't improve performance at all though.
based on what?

CAI will flow a lot better than standard hatch airbox.
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
If you're happy compromising performance for sound, then absolutely all's fine in the world
How would changing to an induction it compromise my performace ? As it would give better and cold air flow ?
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Originally Posted by Scott10199
How would changing to an induction it compromise my performace ? As it would give better and cold air flow ?
How can a CAI kit give better cold air flow - the OE one sucks all its air from outside as well, and it's right at the front of the car too, which to my mind is better pl;aced
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CAI can still use the existing OE air scoop, and can be boxed off if necessary - but the main gain is that CAI is nowhere near as restrictive as the standard hatch airbox & pipework

it'll defo need checked/maf scaled due to the difference in flow

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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Won't improve performance at all though.
Interested to see some evidence of this. Has anyone had a remap from a performance panel filter to a CAI and had no gains?
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This isn't a bad read...
https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...r-box-mod.html

Personally, having run panel filters, an inner wing kit, a cheap Japspeed cone and an RCM trumpet filter on previous cars, my own experience was:
1) No significant gains on a standard engine that you'd really notice. One guy I know had the enclosed K&N apollo kit on his widetrack that made 360bhp which is the highest figure I've seen first hand at a dyno on a standard vf35.
2) Not really worth having an induction kit without a proper cold air feed as you'll just get the hot air from the engine bay as already mentioned
3) On my last car which was running an SC42 and a FMIC, the Japspeed and RCM kit both made the same power (440bhp) even though the RCM had the much larger (and expensive) cone.
I'm sure there's a bit more science behind it though, I trust the RCM brand more, but maybe I'm just being a brand *****
4) I wouldn't bother with an induction kit unless I'm changing the turbo and going FMIC, an adjustable 22mm rear ARB is money better spent for similar money.

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Originally Posted by Gambit
CAI can still use the existing OE air scoop, and can be boxed off if necessary - but the main gain is that CAI is nowhere near as restrictive as the standard hatch airbox & pipework

it'll defo need checked/maf scaled due to the difference in flow
A lot of comments on this thread refer to classic and newage setup with the long 180 degree bend in the inlet feed.
The Hatch onwards is pretty good having a straight feed direct into the filter from the front and thus better ram air effect. Only improvement I'd make is replace the corrugated filter box to turbo air inlet pipe with a smooth silicone one.

If you do fit a CAI, car needs to be mapped.

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