sgking

Yes i broke a rear abs ring some time ago. It broke into 4 or 5 pieces!

I glued it back into 2 halves and then further glued these 2 halves back together around the hub (sod taking the hub off, if you know what i mean).

Anyway it didn't work, abs light stays on and grinding sensation in brakes. So I take it apart for a look and filed all the epoxy down completely flat so it matched the groves - but still it didnt work.

So now im looking to buy a brand new ring (unless anyone wants to sell me a broken one!) and then cut it into 2 segments and glue it back together on the hub (again, sod taking the hub off!)

So before I do this i'd like to know what the success rate of glueing abs rings back together is...please.

Your experiences will be appreciated.

madscoob

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loctite 326 structural adhesive

euan_r

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Why not just get second hand hub or shaft depending on style and be done with it.

sgking

Thanks for your replies.

Good call that loctite!

I might buy a s/h hub...so I have a bugeye, what rear hubs will fit my car? classic with abs, new age?

Sorry my knowledge of this car is not great.

Thanks

stamina_daddy

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Not sure which ones fit,but just ring a subaru breaker on here or I got mine off ebay.
I had bugeye too.
was less than 50 quid delivered.
just ask for a hub with abs then will come complete with bearing and abs ring.
easy peasy.
Justin

stamina_daddy

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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122573403617

stamina_daddy

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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191802818411

sgking

OK i have now got a ring! Please see pic - I need to cut this into 2 halves but need to avoid as much material loss as possible.
I did a test on some plastic with a junior hacksaw vs a tiny cutting disc on my drill and the hacksaw took the least material away so i need to make some improvement on a junior hacksaw, if possible?

If I take too much material away from the ring, the abs sensor throws an error so i need to avoid as much material loss as poss.

what blades can cut metal that are thinner profile than a hacksaw? anyone know?

Thanks

euan_r

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You need to pull hub apart and fit new bearing, no ifs or butts.

Cutting and gluing is never going to work. I have seen hairline cracks mess up the abs.

If you really dont want to fit bearing you could remove entire abs and it will pass mot. You need to bridge two pins on abs wiring to solenoid block to kill the light after switch on.

Ash Webster

quick question as I am in need of putting my ABS rings back on - why do you need to replace the bearings whilst doing so?

I managed to press my hubs back together (with brand new bearings) forgetting to put my rings back on...

euan_r

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It double sided taper bearing. You can take care which inner/outer race you putting loads on when assembling to save any forces being tranfered across needles, that could flat spot them. Not possible on dissasembly as ouside only comes out on one side.

Given low cost of bearings i wouldnt do it given hassle of doing again unless i was in a pinch and needed car on the road.

New bearing will come out easier than an old one though.

Ash Webster

Ugh... tempted to just sack off the ABS then.... thanks for the reply dude.

Ash

sgking

ok well i did it, and i didnt even need to glue it.

reading around the web there are a few people who have just refitted broken rings with success, just as long as its not too damaged.

the way i dealt with mine was:
1. cut the ring into 2 segments from behind, next to one of the mounting points, with a junior hacksaw (alternativley a dremel thin cut off wheel will be thin enough too.)
2. only cut half way through the material and then snap the remainder of it like a biscuit (hold half of it on a brick or similar and lean down on the other half until it snaps - very easy. This way ensures it fits back together into its natural form.
3.remove your old one and fit new, ensuring that the 2 segments align perfectly. I made sure each segment had 2 mounting points used to keep it locked into position.

heres some pics: if you look closely you can see how far i cut through, and then the fracture.

2 days of driving since and no issues - abs back to normal. hooray.

stamina_daddy

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well done!

Ash Webster

if i could guarantee the same on mine i would try... but abs rings are like £100 and new bearings only £20...

sgking

as per stamina daddy, I bought a used hub off the bay (made sure the abs ring and sensor were included and working and at £50 delivered not too bad, however turns out the bearing was bad (!) so that sealed its fate, i had nothing to lose then.

about 15 whacks with a right size socket and club hammer and the spindle and abs ring were out for me to use.

i now have a spare hub, inc abs sensor, drum brakes and all associated bits, and saved some £ and/or time.

i cant guarantee that you will be fine but if i had o do it again i wouldnt think twice.

johned

Great stuff.