TD05 20g Twin Scroll. Guesstimations?
#1
TD05 20g Twin Scroll. Guesstimations?
Waiting on the final piece of the puzzle arriving to up the power a wee bit on my JDM Widetrack before I (maybe pay someone else to, depends on how much time/help I get!) get a stroker block built!
Struggling to find anything on the t'interweb about the Kinugawa TD05 20g twin scroll, as that's the turbo I've opted for in the mean time. Apparently good for 350whp (420+ at the crank?) but I'm slightly sceptical, although a few blokes over in the US and Oz have posted some promising dyno graphs!
To that end, guesstimations from you guys? Particularly interested if any of you are running the single scroll version?
Spec will be as follows:
Standard JDM STI block/manifold set up
Kinugawa TD05 20g twin scroll turbo
Injector Dynamics 1000s
HKS short ram induction with cold air duct fed to the filter
Japspeed FMIC with OEM recirc valve
Decat 3" turbo back into Blitz Nur Spec R
Grimmspeed 3 port boost solenoid
Sytec 255lph fuel pump
PFR7b plugs
*Possibly a parallel fuel set up, time and cash dependant*
Currently running 365hp/tq at the crank, at 1.55bar with stock injectors, TMIC and cold air induction.
Struggling to find anything on the t'interweb about the Kinugawa TD05 20g twin scroll, as that's the turbo I've opted for in the mean time. Apparently good for 350whp (420+ at the crank?) but I'm slightly sceptical, although a few blokes over in the US and Oz have posted some promising dyno graphs!
To that end, guesstimations from you guys? Particularly interested if any of you are running the single scroll version?
Spec will be as follows:
Standard JDM STI block/manifold set up
Kinugawa TD05 20g twin scroll turbo
Injector Dynamics 1000s
HKS short ram induction with cold air duct fed to the filter
Japspeed FMIC with OEM recirc valve
Decat 3" turbo back into Blitz Nur Spec R
Grimmspeed 3 port boost solenoid
Sytec 255lph fuel pump
PFR7b plugs
*Possibly a parallel fuel set up, time and cash dependant*
Currently running 365hp/tq at the crank, at 1.55bar with stock injectors, TMIC and cold air induction.
#3
There are also mamba twinscrolls that have garrett type cores fitted with ntn Ceramic Dual Ball Bearings fitted. something like gt3071r would make 400+. I'm tempted to take a punt on one, I believe engine tuner fitted and mapped one of there turbos gtx3076r @1.8 bar on meth made 501, @1.5 bar 445 and @1.8 bar on vpower 465 that was a non twinscroll though.
#4
Cheers for the advice chaps, but I've already bought the Kinugawa 20g, just waiting on it being delivered.
Seen the single scroll version make 410-420hp, so should be fine!
Probably going to go with something from Blouch or Borg Warner once I get a stroker built though!
Seen the single scroll version make 410-420hp, so should be fine!
Probably going to go with something from Blouch or Borg Warner once I get a stroker built though!
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http://www.racedynamix.co.uk/remap/412-bhp-20g-impreza/
From one of Kinugawa's single scroll 20g units. Am I right in thinking the T/S will make slightly less?
From one of Kinugawa's single scroll 20g units. Am I right in thinking the T/S will make slightly less?
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kinukrapa more like, they have to be some of the most unreliable turbo's out there, some make ok power, some are complete crap and simply don't perform.
Would have been better getting an SC twin scroll or similar that actually prove reliable.
Would have been better getting an SC twin scroll or similar that actually prove reliable.
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#13
My mapper has mapped a few Kinugawa turbos, all have delivered the goods.
Just have a look on a few threads on here, NASIOC and several other forums about Kinugawa turbos, not just what you assume
#14
Kinugawa are made by ihi, nothing but good news on these turbos, have a look on race dynamics web site, he has feedback from the tdo6 20g which made good strong power.
as said above. well tryed and tested.
google it buddy, you will not be disapointed with your purchase..
as said above. well tryed and tested.
google it buddy, you will not be disapointed with your purchase..
#15
find me one bad Kinugawa turbo thread... made by the same people that make our standered ihi turbos, made in the same factory by the people using the same machinary.
fiat do own farrari but fiat machanics dont build them do they.. nor do they design them.
some right chatters on this site.....
#17
ive got the Kinugawa td06 20g t/s for my 2.1. i was like you tho and did **** loads of research before commitment like, never seen 1 bad review, some cracking vids on youtube with people using them.
#21
As I've said above, the turbos are assembled and balanced in Taiwan, using Japanese parts. I bet most expensive (probably the same units with brand name 'tax' added on) are made in the same fashion. My mapper has tuned several cars with Kinugawa blowers on them and all have performed brilliantly. The Japspeed cooler is also tried and tested. Can't really go wrong for £200 odd quid either...
People are always quick to jump on a 'cheap Chinese turbo' bandwagon without doing research.
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No , thats standard 20G with billet wheel ..
^^^ What he says... No special mods needed at this stage either.. J had different headers to mine as i remember . I was still on top mount , oem headers , just normal supporting mods , pump, exhaust etc...
^^^ What he says... No special mods needed at this stage either.. J had different headers to mine as i remember . I was still on top mount , oem headers , just normal supporting mods , pump, exhaust etc...
#30
Looks good lets hope it performs well.