Cornelius

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FFS what the smeg is going on in the ESC???

It seems to me that some people are out to wind up others and are gunning for rows and I'm sick and tired of it now and I can't be ar$ed with the ESC any more! If it wasn't for the fact that Wozzaa has just graphic'd up my car, it would be up for sale now with a Jaguar XK8 waiting to live in my garage.

Tiny and Karen have worked their ar$es off over the years organising events and meets and why should be they be expected to run around after everyone all the time?

I don't think there's an issue with cliqueyness, I've found that everyone is friendly and willing to have a chat. Just because people aren't invited to social gatherings don't mean to say that a "clique" has been formed - there's only so much room for people at some places.

When my brother died almost 2 years ago, I had loads of condolence messages, texts and calls from a lot of people within the so called "knitting circle" and out, it made me proud to be a part of the ESC, but now I don't bother anywhere as much as I used to. If anyone calls or PM's me - I'm more than willing to help people out but other than that, I'm just going to do my own thing from now on.

If you think the ESC is cliquey, you should try the "Sporting Escorts Club" or "Capri Club International" meets - they bring a whole new definition to the word.

With any club, you only get out what you put in and if you make an effort you WILL reap the rewards!
I know if I call anyone on here, they would gladly give advice or be straight over to help all they can, and I do exactly that. I may be quiet, but I do make an effort for the benefit of the club.

This is NOT aimed at anyone in particular, but recently there has been a lot of bickering recently. Not everyone will get on but can we keep things civil.

For the sake of the club, this bickering needs to stop. There are a lot of Scooby owners round my way and when I've told them about the ESC they say they have been on the forum, seen the rows and don't bother coming back anymore. Is this what you really want to continue happening?

dream machine

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here here !!!!!!!,well said paul,when i first joined the esc i was worried about beng excepted ( gobby,loud trappy ),im all of them i know that, but ive never been made to feel unwelcome and over this past year ive met some fantastic people,youve been helpfull and respectfull to the whole troop and for that i thank you all,so come on peeps,lets at least try and keep the good name of the esc good,it would be a shame if it ceased to exsist,dont ya think ????????????

53

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You have indeed

spally

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Paul, Like most things in life you will always get people that are "jealous" for want of a better word, because they feel they are not involved as much as they would like.

i'm a bit like you... i really couldnt give a flying toss to some threads i have read on here.

Even prior to the official "ESC" days this club has and hopefully will remain more than just turn up and talk about your car. Dont get me wrong we all share the same love of scoobs, but this club is so much more than just the cars.

I should know, having owned my old blue scoob and now scoobless have probably been to more meets in a non scoob than a scoob.

Unfortunately though, there will always be those that want to put their 2 pennies in. I was just today reading a similar thread in scottish scoobs on SIDC.

As for anyone knocking the hard work both Tiny and Karen have put into what is now a massive club.....well they are not welcome on here IMHO.

e6graham

i have the upmost respct for both tiny and karen they have both done a great job in making this a great club but there will always be a few people that think otherwise and i feel the same they have no place in this club !

G-Man1982

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i aggre cornelius. I have met alot of people and made a good few mates from ESC but there are to many bullys, quick buck makers and mugs in this club! hope you guys to learn to eject the retards!

i know i dont have a scoob and im a gob - sh1te but dont eject me!lol

spally

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G have never met you fella but am sure a few people would construd what you say as a little OTT.......but at the end of the day characters make a club, not matter if you love them or hate them....what a sad world it would be if we all thought the same.

as i said in my previous thread no matter if you have a scoob or not, get involved and enjoy.

Milamber

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the pleasure was mine mate

Tiny

Nice thread Paul & thanks everyone for the kind words , to be fair really it only is IMHO a few certain individuals who use this forum mainly to try & upset both myself & Karen & i know of a few other members who have been upset / threatened by the certain individuals recently as well , this club is far bigger & better than this/them & over the years the ESC has always pulled together in times like these & come out stronger in the end , I'm sure this will be proven to be correct again

FLAT ERIC

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Agree with all the above. Far to much bickering & negative vibes. Once a difference of opinion has been aired it's more mature to call it "water under the bridge" put a line under it & move on.

As for the issue with cliqueness. You will always get people that get on better with some rather than others. Likewise you will get some that have a clash of personalities. That's not being cliquey. That's life. You cannot make people like or dislike you it just happens. Your behaviour will however be a huge influence in how you are perceived.

G-Man1982

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Pink shirts and handbags.....

















































does not quite work does it!! much love to all!!!! (apart from the con artists and bullys!)

V4JDMSTi

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G-Man there are no con artists or bullys within the ESC imho. If you have been genuinely bullied or conned in anyway by anyone then let everyone know who they are. There's no place in this club for either. It should also be reported to the moderators as this is in breach of the T&C's each user agrees to on sign up. You will however get tonnes of banter in this place. It just takes a while to get used to it and the style it takes.

My £0.02 worth (in addition to my post in the golf thread):

I for one at the moment feel ashamed to say I am part of the ESC. I no longer have an ESC badge or SIDC for that matter incase anyone thinks I'm part of the ESC (being the Essex chapter of the SIDC). I don't wear the T-shirts to events either. I even used to wear them when doing other things to promote the brilliant club it once was, but no more.

This isn't related to any one event in particular but the multitude and tirade of crap that gets posted up and goes on now. I do know that each day I feel less and less like checking in to see what's happening. I've noticed and even had pm, text messages and posts on Facebook from other members saying they don't bother posting up for the same reasons and more.

If I didn't already have something in the pipeline for the scoob then I really do feel like selling up. The only reason I'm carrying on with the plan is because I'm excited how my car will look once done. But, when I went out to move my scoob yesterday and heard a slight noise from the engine bay. It was running a little rough, I opened the bonnet and the coil pack has broken down and needs replacing. In truth I hoped it was the bottom end going so I had a good reason to sell it and get away for a while.

I try and arrange events when I can given the little spare time I have at the moment. The inclination for doing this has dropped off as well. Perhpas it is just time for me to move on instead. I know it's going to be far easier to walk away than try and salvage the small scraps that remain of what was once a brilliant club and group of friends. Do I feel like this "club" is worth saving? No, not in the slightest at present.

G-Man1982

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i have already aired the fact i was con`d into thinking essex tuning solutions was a propper company, and having a set of wheels, a spoiler and splitter ruined. have not ben personally bullyed but i know of others that have by other members and its not my place to say who.

2p back

i will also add, if it was not for ESC i would not have the extra few good mates i now have. not all things are bad.

V4JDMSTi

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As far as I'm concerned that is not an ESC matter. It's a transaction outside of the ESC. Both parties just happen to be members. How the transaction was handled is a different matter.

Correct, it's not your place to say who if it wasn't you and that is to be commended. If you encourage said persons though to air the problem that should also be commended as it may pave the way to attempt to sort things out.

xkellyx

Well said Matt for me i plan on never selling the scoob as i enjoy the car far to much and now my new splitters on and painted i love it all over again, im just gutted the meets and forum are now nothing like they used to be had some wicked days out this year with some fantastic people. Maybe one day we can enjoy it all how we used it

pinseeker

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Same here...still developing the car & still love the Hawkeye
Can't wait to get some handling mods on especially as I want to do more track days. I haven't been to the monthly meets for a while but that's not because of the current state of atmosphere in the ESC but just been too busy lately. Really hope to get to a few meets in the future though

53

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I blame the weather !

yellowvanman

If Only ...........

G-Man1982

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advertising a business on ESC kinda makes that a ESC matter! No ESC, No mullerd property!! Simples! Ill say no more on the matter as i enough has been said already. People on here need to get there heads out there ***** imho! (not aimed at any 1 directly just in general)


XkellyX... glad you love your car and your bits are sprayed... lets hope they look better than this eh... x x x




Hmmm and im wrong?????

x x x x x

G-Man1982

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cornlious im sorry bud. im not going to sit here and be made to look like the bad man here.

This thread has totaly proved your point.

scooby seb

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same here,stroll on the summer everything seams better in the sun

dream machine

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,

very good lol

V4JDMSTi

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I was going to reply but just can't be arsed

Bye.

Tiny

Posts removed Seb , not sure how it got there mate

scooby seb

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cheers tiny, probly my **** up

Moley

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TBH i am not sure what has been going on, however.... one of the best evenings out i have had in a long time was the ESC go karting last week.

Although i don't go to many of the meets, whenever i do the members are always willing to chat and have a great laugh.

pinseeker

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The karting is superb but not for the faint hearted

Moley

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Only took me 4 days to stop aching

53

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I know we've had our share of village idiots recently but I'm not sad about the club. I am always happy to see another smiling ESC face and for the most part that feeling is mutual. I still get a buzz when I see members I haven't seen for a while, or if people turn up who weren't down as coming. It takes ages to meet everyone and even after 4 years I am still forging friendships with new people that I just hadn't got round to getting to know yet. For those that feel sad on a macro level rest assured that for everything you see that's negative, there's loads of positive stuff going on at the micro level. Watch our space, the best is yet to come

WRX_Dazza

i'm just getting bored with the scoob lately....

if one of these comes up for the right dollar, i will be away !!!



still be in contact with bods from here though