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Old 27 February 2008, 11:27 PM
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Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a UK 2003/4 STi and a JDM spec model? Frayz??
Old 27 February 2008, 11:32 PM
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Call me, too much to say on here lol

twinscroll turbo, HID lighting, 8k rpm limit, better cams, better heads, front mounted I/C water spray with auto mode, no TGVs, rear wiper, 235 tyres, DCCD different dash, different clocks to name a few.

Hope that helps...

Basically the JDM is a sh1tload better than the UK variant.
Old 27 February 2008, 11:40 PM
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Frayz.... :

Ive got new 18"s......... Are the 235's worth the extra cost??? 40mm more on the road...

ROB.......
Old 27 February 2008, 11:41 PM
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How was your salad big boy
Old 27 February 2008, 11:46 PM
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took it pretty easy.... Didnt even have any afters Sitting opposite munter is usually a appetite killer!!!!

ROB...
Old 27 February 2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by robbroy
Frayz.... :

Ive got new 18"s......... Are the 235's worth the extra cost??? 40mm more on the road...

ROB.......
Have they arrived ? yes they are mate for the rim protection alone are they 18x8's ?
Old 27 February 2008, 11:49 PM
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Yeah.. 18 x 8 's, Yeah there Gorgeous......... Had to drop the 'bird' home, & come home to caress 'em

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Old 27 February 2008, 11:51 PM
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what difference does a twinscroll turbo make?

I'll call you tomorrow mate, any particular time suit you?
Old 27 February 2008, 11:51 PM
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Wots the best way to seal/protect em from new......?? just in case i get a bit 'Bufty'..

ROB...
Old 27 February 2008, 11:52 PM
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Well they are spanish beauties are they not

If Zak still has the Ever Vreddy's on offer they are a bargain at something like £90 a corner for the 235's. The 225's weren't that much cheaper IIRC.

You gonna wax those babies up ?

Edited to say ...something like a chemical guys wheel guard, poorboys wheel sealent or my personal fav chemical guys wet mirror finish under 2 layers of chemical guys jet seal. I will probably make mine all fruity with a layer of Swissvax too

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You gonna wax those babies up ?

MMMMMMMmmmmm............... Sure am !!!!
Old 27 February 2008, 11:59 PM
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Stu... Will talk @ mtbing, as to where i get the 'chemical guys'....

ROB...
Old 28 February 2008, 12:07 AM
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Cool

I normally go to Tim at CYC Clean Your Car - car care products UK or David at The finest car care and automotive detailing products available.

The Jet Seal is a exclusive to www.cleanandshiney.co.uk but as he is the UK distributor for CG's david can get it too. I will let you have the discount code too if they still do them
Old 28 February 2008, 12:33 AM
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Rob, yes to the 235s, yes to poorboys wheel sealant .

Chris,

Call me anytime after 12 noon mate as im on lates, or i call bell you when im free beforehand. The twinscroll turbo is probably best explained over the phone. But, in short. the twinscroll has 2 inlets from the exhaust turbine housing.

Each port has only the gases from 2 cylinders entering it that are paired in cycle. Because they are paired in cycle the turbocharger recieves 2 separate pulse waves into the turbine housing. This massively improves spool and turbo response. A twinscroll is likely to spool at least 500rpm sooner than that of a singlescroll of the same size/spec engine.

This makes the car much more lively to drive, and much more usable day to day. Ultimately faster on the road than its UK counterpart by some margin mate

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Old 28 February 2008, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Call me, too much to say on here lol

twinscroll turbo, HID lighting, 8k rpm limit, better cams, better heads, front mounted I/C water spray with auto mode, no TGVs, rear wiper, 235 tyres, DCCD different dash, different clocks to name a few.

Hope that helps...

Basically the JDM is a sh1tload better than the UK variant.
Agreed, with one exception

The JDM has a lower final gear ratio, great for acceleration, but irritatingly high rpm when cruising.

Mine has the JDM gearing, and it is the one thing I would do differently, although maybe better for the 2.0 peakier power delivery?
Old 28 February 2008, 12:26 PM
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The JDM in standard form may run to 8k but seem to run out of puff around 6500.

Also harder to find exhausts that marry-up to the twin scroll.

I have to admit my brother has been a bit frustrated with his MY04 JDM STi when looking at modding it. A few things he has wanted to do he either can't as easily or it appears to be more expensive than on a UK car

In fact he may be selling it soon.
Old 28 February 2008, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
The JDM in standard form may run to 8k but seem to run out of puff around 6500.

Also harder to find exhausts that marry-up to the twin scroll.

I have to admit my brother has been a bit frustrated with his MY04 JDM STi when looking at modding it. A few things he has wanted to do he either can't as easily or it appears to be more expensive than on a UK car

In fact he may be selling it soon.
Out of interest,

What parts/mods has he struggled to find mate?
Old 28 February 2008, 03:41 PM
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I'd go for a JDM myself... but don't forget the extra insurance cost of a JDM

The Spec'C' is twinscroll

But I suspect your to late, Steve's probably having fun in the Noble already

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Old 28 February 2008, 03:53 PM
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Interesting debate
I was advised to buy a UK with a view to modding to min 400/400.
Further modding can be achieved but for the moment want to get used to the extra power from a standard UK STI.

Normally I would buy a JDM (had a STI 5 before) as the styling was different as was the power as standard which offered a lot back in the day (UK compared to JDM). I dont see a massive difference in styling between the UK STI & the STI. The only advantage currently is that I can order parts from any UK Subaru dealer but with the import I did have problems obtaining some parts for my STI 5 (maybe its changed now).
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Originally Posted by Mark_B4
but don't forget the extra insurance cost of a JDM
Think you'll find it won't be an issue
Old 28 February 2008, 04:31 PM
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I have owned both UK & JDM
There was definately a difference in insurance costs from the same company.
I now however use Keith Michaels (Moley) now & the costs has come down considerably
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Id personally buy JDM if i had my time again..
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With all the effort your putting in on the current project you should be able to do another project along side the existing one Go on have your time again I always find your updates very interesting Frayz as you seem to find ways of doing things that others just dream of
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Thanx for the reply's frayz & stu...

Sorry for stealing the post a little Chris..

ROB.....
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If I were buying again and the deal was right I would walk towards the JDM rather than the UK car.
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Originally Posted by pinseeker
With all the effort your putting in on the current project you should be able to do another project along side the existing one Go on have your time again I always find your updates very interesting Frayz as you seem to find ways of doing things that others just dream of
Dunno about having my time again, its expensive enough the first time around lol.

I seem to do stuff other people dream of because im young and stupid and theyre not lol...

I mean who cuts holes in roofs, rips dashes out and changes their map on a weekly basis lol
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Think you'll find it won't be an issue
I forgot you get OAP special prices
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Originally Posted by frayz
Id personally buy JDM if i had my time again..

Me to mate

Oh & a STI As well rather than the all powder puff WRX

All Show & No go !!

You gotta love it
Old 28 February 2008, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark_B4
I forgot you get OAP special prices
Your insurance must be counted in pennies then
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My insurance Is now considerable cheaper on the JDM STi Than my UK 03 WRX with PPP on, and that's with all mods as well.

Chris if you would like a go of a twin scroll JDM to see the difference I will be at the posers cruise Saturday, the only thing is once you try you will be spoiled and won't want a UK car after mate



JDM Rule mate



























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