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Old 15 January 2013, 11:18 PM
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how can i tell if my car has been remapped?
the guy i bought it from said its been mapped and has a daughterboard fitted?
my cars a 1998 uk turbo
do these look different to a normal board on a ecu?

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Old 15 January 2013, 11:21 PM
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What modifications has your car got, because if you say "this and that", then you'd be best getting it looked at anyway. I wouldnt trust anyone's word when buying a car unless I knew or trusted them.

A novice's tweak here and there followed by a 3" decat = Bang!

You do right to ask though

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its had a decat and stainless straight through its real loud and pops,its got front mount intercooler on it,and the guy said its been remapped and is at 285bhp now but it really dont feel like. my revs aint going down quick enough either when changing gear so dont know what the cause of this would be, iv sprayed the cable with WD40 and cleaned idle control valve but still the same.
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Without going into lots if detail, you need to get it looked at , as you don't need front mount intercooler for the power you got, if its not mapped your on borrowed time if not already too late ;(

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Old 16 January 2013, 09:04 AM
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You've really got 2 options mate
Either ask they guy who you purchased it from , who mapped the car , then speak with the mapper ( most decent ones will have records )

Or get it plugged in by a mapper and they will know straight away if and what's been done
Old 16 January 2013, 10:34 AM
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Start with the basics first like fault codes, air leaks, checking sensors. Make sure what you've got is working.

Regarding the ecu, take it out of the car (it's under the carpet in passenger footwell under a metal plate) and take the cover off the ecu. You can see if a daughter boards been added. Check here for details http://www.chip-racing.ch/en/chip-ra...u-my1992-1998/

If you're not sure what to do then you need to take it to an expert, don't guess and don't keep replacing parts until it fixes it like most do. Be careful where you go as not all experts are experts.

edit - 1998 year car could be a v4 or v5. if it's a v5 a daughter board wouldn't be needed. V4 would be yellow connections on ecu and v5 would be grey.

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Old 16 January 2013, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jason_2013
Start with the basics first like fault codes, air leaks, checking sensors. Make sure what you've got is working.

Regarding the ecu, take it out of the car (it's under the carpet in passenger footwell under a metal plate) and take the cover off the ecu. You can see if a daughter boards been added. Check here for details http://www.chip-racing.ch/en/chip-ra...u-my1992-1998/

If you're not sure what to do then you need to take it to an expert, don't guess and don't keep replacing parts until it fixes it like most do. Be careful where you go as not all experts are experts.

edit - 1998 year car could be a v4 or v5. if it's a v5 a daughter board wouldn't be needed. V4 would be yellow connections on ecu and v5 would be grey.
Tbh mate there's not much point in him opening up the ecu , if its an esl he still won't know who and what the map is ,
First port of call if I were the op would be a decent mapper , who might at the same time be able to identify any obvious faults
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thanks guys. it must be my bad luck with cars as today its started to cut boost so going to get it looked at.
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Try not to run it period.

If you have to run it to say get it to a garage, then run it off boost, say uinder 2'500 revs or on light load, this is obviously assuming that its something as simple as bad vac pipe issue and not something more sinister!

I see your in South wales, Im not sure who to recommend to you down there other than Alan Jeffery's (Engine Tuner) which might be a little OTT for what issue(s) you have.

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iv been recommended to go to indigo gt mate
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Indigo gt
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All decent knowledgable Subaru gurus, where to in South Wales are you bud?
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im near mountain ash bud
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Originally Posted by ryanscooby25
im near mountain ash bud
Blimey, I was up there yesterday buying my first scooby.
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Bet there is a bit of snow with you

I'm over in Hengoed so not far and its rather mental here lol
Old 18 January 2013, 08:30 PM
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If you want to take the cover off the ecu, mail me a clear pic of it I will be able to tell you if its had an ESL upgrade fitted or something other.

then you can make some informed decisions iyswim.

cheers

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yes plenty of snow with us here and a shame i cant use my scooby
thanks bob will do that and post a pic here

THIS WAS THE EXACT TXT THAT I HAD OFF PREVIOUS OWNER.

its got a y7 ecu ( standard ) with an esl daughterboard fitted, the casing had ecutek and date on it.

whatever that mean i dont no as im useless but i will get a clear pic of it and put it up tommorow.

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Old 18 January 2013, 10:46 PM
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It's what map it's running that's important , not the hardware , he's aware it's esl but that in itself is no indication of how it's set up

He needs to take it to a mapper or find out who mapped it
Old 19 January 2013, 12:28 PM
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A Y7 ECU is 99/00 ECU it won't have an ESL board in it.
Old 19 January 2013, 07:25 PM
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drove my car home from work this morning as i had no other way of getting home and it drove as it should and the boost is at 1.5bar where it was boosting since i bought the car so its back to normal dont no what went on with it.
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Either way you need it looking at.

I would be more concerned if it was my car now than when it was blatently running poorly, as now it could repeat when you least expect under bad conditions, and next time it might not be as straight to get it running normal (engine damage)
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Originally Posted by ryanscooby25
drove my car home from work this morning as i had no other way of getting home and it drove as it should and the boost is at 1.5bar where it was boosting since i bought the car so its back to normal dont no what went on with it.
It could be air temps , an intermittent fault ( boost solonoid )
Restrictor pill blocked a little , numerous things
Like rob said you would be best getting it checked over even if it don't occur again at least you will get a little more peace of mind
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im awaiting reply on my facebook from indigo gt to get it booked in.1 thing i have noticed is strong smell of petrol all the time.

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Originally Posted by ryanscooby25
im awaiting reply on my facebook from indigo gt to get it booked in.1 thing i have noticed is strong smell of petrol all the time.
Cool , best thing mate
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pics from my car today and by the look of it iv been caught because it dosnt look like any added esl board in my ecu.
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Not my area of expertise but I can't see any daughterboard there.......scoobyEcu / Polar / ESL......

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my friend said the same thing.its been boosting at 1.5 bar since iv owned the car and iv had it a few months,also got decat straight thro and front mount intercooler and pipercross cone ( sponge filter ) on it so im lost with what to do next.
thanks for reply.
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If its a 2000 ecu it may have the ecutek map as I believe they didn't require a ESL board, and if it had a ecutek sticker on there I would be inclined to think that's what it's got if that's the case

I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong

EFA :- just seen the pics so its not even the ecu he said it had, just get it up to indigo if that's your preferred choice and see what they say

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Take it to a mapper and get it plugged in , they will tell you instantly if its been mapped , if it hasn't get it mapped
Or keep driving it ( not that advisable ) unless you're gonna take it very steady even then you could be playing with fire
They are you're only options at this moment in time mate
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Originally Posted by Infected by sti
If its a 2000 ecu it may have the ecutek map as I believe they didn't require a ESL board, and if it had a ecutek sticker on there i would be incline to think that's what it's got if that's the case

I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong
You're correct mate , if its been mapped it'll be ecutek
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can the 8s ecu be mapped then? from what iv read online they need a esl board fitted before they can be mapped.


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