Notices
Engine Management and ECU Remapping This section is to discuss the various aspects of engine management modification for your Subaru.

Global ign retard for a 99ron map to 97ron

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 17 December 2014, 11:03 PM
  #1  
Welloilbeefhooked
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Welloilbeefhooked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 3,577
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Global ign retard for a 99ron map to 97ron

When I had my old wrx mapped on a Pfc I was told that a 4deg ign retard would allow the use of 97ron fuel in the event that I was stuck. The commander was always in the car so this was easy.

What have other diy-ers done in order to generate maps for both low and high octane fuels? I really don't fancy having to fill up with 97 and repeat the entire mapping process even though I could.
Old 18 December 2014, 01:17 PM
  #2  
DT-SPD
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
DT-SPD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Rugby
Posts: 798
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

IMO repeating the mapping process is the only way to ensure safe ignition timing for 97ron.

A global retard, whilst OK in most cases, could still leave certain areas or rpm/load that the engine is more sensitive to the start of det.
Old 18 December 2014, 01:58 PM
  #3  
Welloilbeefhooked
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Welloilbeefhooked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 3,577
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm with you on this. Its simply a pain in the **** filling up at shell garages.

Bite the bullet time me thinks.
Old 18 December 2014, 05:29 PM
  #4  
Deej
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Deej's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

For the same reason as you I think I'll be mapping on 97 in future and accepting the slight hit in power just for the convenience.

Seems a shame when there's a shell garage right next to my house but it's a pain in the **** tracking them down when driving long distance.
Old 18 December 2014, 05:48 PM
  #5  
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
boosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harlow
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

That's where you need a 5l can of thinners in your boot.
Old 18 December 2014, 08:43 PM
  #6  
Welloilbeefhooked
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
 
Welloilbeefhooked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 3,577
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I spend most if my time running a 1bar map and its only occasionally run on 1.35. I may just map at 1.3 on 97 and have done with it.
Old 18 December 2014, 10:39 PM
  #7  
gaborpapp
Scooby Regular
 
gaborpapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: London
Posts: 173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

first world problems

but true indeed. Everytime i go somwehere long distance, as soon as I go under half a tank, i start looking for shell stations.

if have dyno's would be interesting to see how much power you lose when switching to the 97 fuel.
Old 19 December 2014, 09:15 PM
  #8  
mikescooby
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
mikescooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Newark,Notts
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Do you have the shell app to help you locate them. Very usefull when i go on holidays
Old 19 December 2014, 09:21 PM
  #9  
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
boosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: harlow
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Thinners
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Abx
Subaru
22
09 January 2016 05:42 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
the shreksta
General Technical
27
02 October 2015 03:20 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM



Quick Reply: Global ign retard for a 99ron map to 97ron



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:42 PM.