Power limitations on MY08-11 STi
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Power limitations on MY08-11 STi
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I've recently bought a impreza hatchback STi 330s. So it has the prodrive exhaust and map on it already. I'm wanting to tune the engine abit further and want to find out what people have found the best mods to be to release power safely.
I'm guessing decat and an induction filter. What else would be limiting me from say 380bhp?
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Tom
I've recently bought a impreza hatchback STi 330s. So it has the prodrive exhaust and map on it already. I'm wanting to tune the engine abit further and want to find out what people have found the best mods to be to release power safely.
I'm guessing decat and an induction filter. What else would be limiting me from say 380bhp?
Cheers
Tom
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Just map it mate, if it fails rebuild it. They dont all go bang. No body talks about the ones that have lasted at a certain power.
I have a 2009 hatch sti too. Standard atm forging it in new year!
Get some pics up!
I have a 2009 hatch sti too. Standard atm forging it in new year!
Get some pics up!
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Thanks Gambit. I have been down to my local tuner (GR Performance) who advise me the same thing. I think I may leave it at the same power for now then can you anyone recommend a piston kit from experience and guide price to upgrade?
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pure luck it held together, dozens of examples of them not.
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Revved to 8,000rpm too!
Innovative Tuning:
A UK tuner echoed this statement to me not so long ago, and was pretty upset at the 2.5's rep and how owners don't treat it right.
I suppose the real top guys see a pattern in the failures when every other day they have it in front of them.
Innovative Tuning:
stock Subaru 2.5 STI shortblocks are stronger than many people think. It's not power that's killing most of them, but poor or aggressive tuning, poor build quality, lack of/poor maintenance, and a slew of other issues. After multiple lapping days last fall and a race weekend with NARRA at Watkins Glen, this 2.5 shortblock was far from new, but it got the job done.
Unfortunately we've seen our share of customers come in with blown ringlands on stock cars too. There are some defects and some cars with stock tunes that I feel are causing the problem.
Then there are some cars with aftermarket tunes that are more aggressive than I suggest and may be the cause of failures on almost stock cars.
Then there are cars making 300-400 wheel HP that last a while and some that don't depending on tune, supporting mods, maintenance, driver behavior etc.
Above that how the car is cared for is really important, but I agree it's also somewhat of a crapshoot. Some stock shortblocks are so tight it's just a matter of time before someone builds enough heat make clearances disappear.
I'm ripping this car around a road course so I'm doing long high speed pulls which build a lot of heat, but I'm mindful of that when I tune my car. It's always warm up before I go on track, fluid temps are always totally under control, I change my oil for each track day, etc. so I do what I can.
I mean if you consider that I'm at full boost for around 1 minute per lap on the road course at Watkins Glen, that's like 6 ish drag passes which is more than I would do at a whole track night. Then think of how many on ramp pulls you'd have to do to be at full boost for 1 minute. Then think about me turning lap after lap at a road course. The time at full boost adds up rather quickly this way compared to how the average STI owner drives on the street.
Unfortunately we've seen our share of customers come in with blown ringlands on stock cars too. There are some defects and some cars with stock tunes that I feel are causing the problem.
Then there are some cars with aftermarket tunes that are more aggressive than I suggest and may be the cause of failures on almost stock cars.
Then there are cars making 300-400 wheel HP that last a while and some that don't depending on tune, supporting mods, maintenance, driver behavior etc.
Above that how the car is cared for is really important, but I agree it's also somewhat of a crapshoot. Some stock shortblocks are so tight it's just a matter of time before someone builds enough heat make clearances disappear.
I'm ripping this car around a road course so I'm doing long high speed pulls which build a lot of heat, but I'm mindful of that when I tune my car. It's always warm up before I go on track, fluid temps are always totally under control, I change my oil for each track day, etc. so I do what I can.
I mean if you consider that I'm at full boost for around 1 minute per lap on the road course at Watkins Glen, that's like 6 ish drag passes which is more than I would do at a whole track night. Then think of how many on ramp pulls you'd have to do to be at full boost for 1 minute. Then think about me turning lap after lap at a road course. The time at full boost adds up rather quickly this way compared to how the average STI owner drives on the street.
I suppose the real top guys see a pattern in the failures when every other day they have it in front of them.
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even in standard form they let go, so many experiances in that thread about em to just be poor habbits, if that was the case subaru wouldnt be replacing any. wasnt there a guy on there who had 2 go in 8k miles?
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If you run an aftermarket ecu you can just have switchable maps anyway. The wheel to switch over is something which could be wired up into the new loom syvecs loom for example
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You can have twin maps using the oem ecu on any drive by wire car (2.5), my own car has run at just over 580 flywheel bhp using that (10% meth). And you can even have a flex fuel function now in addition to launch control, flat foot shifting, gear by gear boost settings, auto blip on down shift and gear by gear rpm limits, with full twin maps available as well.
But the thing that breaks ring lands is hitting the rev limiter, you only need to do that once if you are unlucky, and missing a gear will also do it.
To say that the stock 2.5 short engine is resilient is nonsense, its not. Post 2010 blocks are stronger, but in all iterations the pistons are pants.
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But the thing that breaks ring lands is hitting the rev limiter, you only need to do that once if you are unlucky, and missing a gear will also do it.
To say that the stock 2.5 short engine is resilient is nonsense, its not. Post 2010 blocks are stronger, but in all iterations the pistons are pants.
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I already rum racerom and had experimented with methanol, it was just a pain in the **** having to remember to switch maps etc
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